From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  1 02:10:10 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 11:10:10 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Osis Psalms canonical titles
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Il 31/03/2019 23:49, Cyrille ha scritto:
> DM seams to be right. If I move the title tag after the verse tag BT
> shows the text, even if it is a break. And I have no more warning
> during building module.

Now what to do? If I put the title tag after the verse, I have a break
in Xiphos and the first verse is displayed as a title. But BT can
display it also. If I use the title before, BT can't display it.
I think that putting the title tag after the verse is the most relevant
solution because sometimes the verse 1 is longer than the title part, or
the canonical title is on two verses. And if osis2mod give me a warning
this means problably that the first way is the best, no?

>
> Il 31/03/2019 17:57, Cyrille ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> Il 31/03/2019 17:28, Michael H ha scritto:
>>> Have you tried scrolling up in Bibletime?? Bibletime sets the
>>> display to start at verse 1 in each chapter.? If there is a Chapter
>>> title, intro, verse zero or section title information, it is in the
>>> stream, but 'above' the top of the display.
>> Yes it is not this. I thought I found the error, but it not that. If
>> I use the file? only with the psalms I can read it, and I have no
>> error message when building it with osis2mod. But If I use all the
>> bible the problem remains. And I have this errors:
>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.15.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.17.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.18.2 is not well formed:(4,3)
>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.23.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>> (...)
>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.145.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:42 AM Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Ok I found the solution... The problem was due to a custom css.
>>>     Using an other one gave me to display well the bible in BT.
>>>
>>>     Il 31/03/2019 15:26, Cyrille ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Il 31/03/2019 14:42, DM Smith ha scritto:
>>>>>     In the Bible, some translations the Psalm titles stand before
>>>>>     verse 1. This is how the KJV does it. Other translations have
>>>>>     it as verse 1.
>>>>>
>>>>>     osis2mod tries to identify whether a title that stands before
>>>>>     verse 1 should be a chapter title (i.e. verse 0) or should be
>>>>>     a verse title (i.e. verse 1). And it marks up titles in a
>>>>>     fashion that SWORD engine expects. Dumping the module using
>>>>>     mod2imp, will show how well or badly this was done.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I think the problem here is the order of elements. So rather
>>>>>     than <title><verse sID/>?<verse eID/></title> use <verse
>>>>>     sID/><title>?</title><verse eID/>.
>>>>>
>>>>     I tried this way, and BT can display it, but there is a line
>>>>     break just after the verse number for Xiphos and for BT.
>>>>>     The attribute canonical=?true? is supposed to tell the SWORD
>>>>>     engine to always show the title. I think there are still
>>>>>     problems with that. So, try turning Headers on, when you don?t
>>>>>     see them.
>>>>     All the other titles are displayed.
>>>>>     In Him,
>>>>>     DM
>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:13 AM, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com
>>>>>>     <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hello,
>>>>>>     I'm working on a text with canonical Psalms titles. When I
>>>>>>     convert it from usfm to osis I have this result:
>>>>>>     <div type="subSection">
>>>>>>     ??????? <chapter sID="Ps.3" osisID="Ps.3" n="3"/>
>>>>>>     ??????? <title>Invocazione mattutina del giusto
>>>>>>     perseguitato</title>
>>>>>>     ??????? <p></p>
>>>>>>     ??????? <!-- d -->
>>>>>>     ??????? <title type="psalm" canonical="true"><verse
>>>>>>     sID="Ps.3.1" osisID="Ps.3.1" n="1"/>Salmo di Davide quando
>>>>>>     fuggiva il figlio Assalonne.<verse eID="Ps.3.1"/></title>
>>>>>>     ??????? <lg>
>>>>>>     ????????? <l level="1"><verse sID="Ps.3.2" osisID="Ps.3.2"
>>>>>>     n="2"/>Signore, quanti sono i miei oppressori!</l>
>>>>>>     ????????? <l level="1">Molti contro di me insorgono. <verse
>>>>>>     eID="Ps.3.2"/></l>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Is it correct? Because Bibletime doesn't display it
>>>>>>     <https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/178>.
>>>>>>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Mon Apr  1 02:45:59 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 09:45:59 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Osis Psalms canonical titles
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In USFM, when the canonical descriptive Psalm title occupies part of a verse, the poetry tag \q begins the ordinary verse text.

The current state of osis2mod is that a nesting warning will be generated when the verse sID milestone is within a title element but the corresponding verse eID milestone is not.

NB. In some Psalms, the title occupies a bit more than two verses. Psalm 18 is an example.

Have the SWORD developers ever given enough detailed consideration for these unusual situations?

Best regards,

David

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:10, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Il 31/03/2019 23:49, Cyrille ha scritto:
>
>> DM seams to be right. If I move the title tag after the verse tag BT shows the text, even if it is a break. And I have no more warning during building module.
>
> Now what to do? If I put the title tag after the verse, I have a break in Xiphos and the first verse is displayed as a title. But BT can display it also. If I use the title before, BT can't display it.
> I think that putting the title tag after the verse is the most relevant solution because sometimes the verse 1 is longer than the title part, or the canonical title is on two verses. And if osis2mod give me a warning this means problably that the first way is the best, no?
>
>> Il 31/03/2019 17:57, Cyrille ha scritto:
>>
>>> Il 31/03/2019 17:28, Michael H ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Have you tried scrolling up in Bibletime?  Bibletime sets the display to start at verse 1 in each chapter.  If there is a Chapter title, intro, verse zero or section title information, it is in the stream, but 'above' the top of the display.
>>>
>>> Yes it is not this. I thought I found the error, but it not that. If I use the file  only with the psalms I can read it, and I have no error message when building it with osis2mod. But If I use all the bible the problem remains. And I have this errors:
>>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.15.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.17.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.18.2 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.23.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>> (...)
>>> WARNING(NESTING): verse Ps.145.1 is not well formed:(4,3)
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:42 AM Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok I found the solution... The problem was due to a custom css. Using an other one gave me to display well the bible in BT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 31/03/2019 15:26, Cyrille ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Il 31/03/2019 14:42, DM Smith ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the Bible, some translations the Psalm titles stand before verse 1. This is how the KJV does it. Other translations have it as verse 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> osis2mod tries to identify whether a title that stands before verse 1 should be a chapter title (i.e. verse 0) or should be a verse title (i.e. verse 1). And it marks up titles in a fashion that SWORD engine expects. Dumping the module using mod2imp, will show how well or badly this was done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the problem here is the order of elements. So rather than <title><verse sID/>?<verse eID/></title> use <verse sID/><title>?</title><verse eID/>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried this way, and BT can display it, but there is a line break just after the verse number for Xiphos and for BT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attribute canonical=?true? is supposed to tell the SWORD engine to always show the title. I think there are still problems with that. So, try turning Headers on, when you don?t see them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the other titles are displayed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Him,
>>>>>>> DM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:13 AM, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> I'm working on a text with canonical Psalms titles. When I convert it from usfm to osis I have this result:
>>>>>>>> <div type="subSection">
>>>>>>>>         <chapter sID="Ps.3" osisID="Ps.3" n="3"/>
>>>>>>>>         <title>Invocazione mattutina del giusto perseguitato</title>
>>>>>>>>         <p></p>
>>>>>>>>         <!-- d -->
>>>>>>>>         <title type="psalm" canonical="true"><verse sID="Ps.3.1" osisID="Ps.3.1" n="1"/>Salmo di Davide quando fuggiva il figlio Assalonne.<verse eID="Ps.3.1"/></title>
>>>>>>>>         <lg>
>>>>>>>>           <l level="1"><verse sID="Ps.3.2" osisID="Ps.3.2" n="2"/>Signore, quanti sono i miei oppressori!</l>
>>>>>>>>           <l level="1">Molti contro di me insorgono. <verse eID="Ps.3.2"/></l>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it correct? Because Bibletime [doesn't display it](https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/178).
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Fri Apr  5 20:37:23 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 22:37:23 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Door43
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There are currently 44 Bible Text projects on Door43 (Unfolding word).  Is
any repo willing to host these?

Here's a list of the projects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zq9ySjMA-Dui0-J91IqD03qe-d2LyCb50rdcitMcZSY/edit?usp=sharing

Most of these these use a simple USFM markup with a single custom tag (s5)
which is used to align parallel displays and must be stripped from the
text.

There are a few (both English, Greek, Hebrew, and possibly Russian) which
include strongs or a strongs-like markup, and will need a bit more effort
to host.)
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From Michael at eBible.org  Fri Apr  5 22:54:45 2019
From: Michael at eBible.org (Michael Johnson)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 22:54:45 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Door43
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Yes. I already have a few of them imported. I plan to import the rest to the eBible.org repository.

On 4/5/19 8:37 PM, Michael H wrote:
> There are currently 44 Bible Text projects on Door43 (Unfolding word).? Is any repo willing to host these?
>
> Here's a list of the projects:?
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zq9ySjMA-Dui0-J91IqD03qe-d2LyCb50rdcitMcZSY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Most of these these use a simple USFM markup with a single custom tag (s5) which is used to align parallel displays and must be stripped from the text.?
>
> There are a few (both English, Greek, Hebrew, and possibly Russian) which include strongs or a strongs-like markup, and will need a bit more effort to host.)?
>
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Sat Apr  6 07:44:00 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 09:44:00 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Door43
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Michael,

That link is my hack of the Door43 catalog.  There is a (probably more
accurate) json version which frustrated my attempts to open due to line
length (1 row of text) freezing my editors. It probably will feed your
methods better. The Wycliffe Associates list  of 'published' projects is
described here:
https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/how-can-a-developer-access-door43-translations/187

This list contains a further 50+ projects, Translation Notes-'tn' and
Translation words-'tw', I am investigating these for converting to sword
dictionary and commentary modules, respectively.  This effort is an outcome
of David Haslam's recent suggestion to make a converter for markdown.

Is there a Sword compatible markup language common to Genbooks,
Commentaries, and Dictionaries that I can focus on converting Markdown to?

Note that the translation notes at Door43 are in process converting from
nearly marked up markdown files to spreadsheet format (snippets of markdown
with a lot of embedded data) apparently in order to accommodate what they
refer to as "alignment" that we would call 'strongs numbering' in the Sword
community. Since this is a hybrid, (undocumented, early alpha) I don't
currently have any plan to tackle the notes projects stored in tab
separated values files.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 12:56 AM Michael Johnson <Michael at ebible.org> wrote:

> Yes. I already have a few of them imported. I plan to import the rest to
> the eBible.org repository.
>
> On 4/5/19 8:37 PM, Michael H wrote:
> > There are currently 44 Bible Text projects on Door43 (Unfolding word).
> Is any repo willing to host these?
> >
> > Here's a list of the projects:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zq9ySjMA-Dui0-J91IqD03qe-d2LyCb50rdcitMcZSY/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Most of these these use a simple USFM markup with a single custom tag
> (s5) which is used to align parallel displays and must be stripped from the
> text.
> >
> > There are a few (both English, Greek, Hebrew, and possibly Russian)
> which include strongs or a strongs-like markup, and will need a bit more
> effort to host.)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr  6 09:19:18 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 16:19:18 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Door43
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Further to Michael?s note, I just want to put on record that I developed an Excel worksheet environment to help Vince LaRue add Strong?s Numbers to the Spanish RV 1865 text.

I developed two related TextPipe filters.
1. To convert USFM to tab delimited WPL layout.
2. To convert tab delimited with Strong?s back to USFM 3.0

My present circumstances are such that I cannot go into more detail here.

David

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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 15:44, Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> That link is my hack of the Door43 catalog.  There is a (probably more accurate) json version which frustrated my attempts to open due to line length (1 row of text) freezing my editors. It probably will feed your methods better. The Wycliffe Associates list  of 'published' projects is described here:
> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/how-can-a-developer-access-door43-translations/187
>
> This list contains a further 50+ projects, Translation Notes-'tn' and Translation words-'tw', I am investigating these for converting to sword dictionary and commentary modules, respectively.  This effort is an outcome of David Haslam's recent suggestion to make a converter for markdown.
>
> Is there a Sword compatible markup language common to Genbooks, Commentaries, and Dictionaries that I can focus on converting Markdown to?
>
> Note that the translation notes at Door43 are in process converting from nearly marked up markdown files to spreadsheet format (snippets of markdown with a lot of embedded data) apparently in order to accommodate what they refer to as "alignment" that we would call 'strongs numbering' in the Sword community. Since this is a hybrid, (undocumented, early alpha) I don't currently have any plan to tackle the notes projects stored in tab separated values files.
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 12:56 AM Michael Johnson <Michael at ebible.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes. I already have a few of them imported. I plan to import the rest to the eBible.org repository.
>>
>> On 4/5/19 8:37 PM, Michael H wrote:
>>> There are currently 44 Bible Text projects on Door43 (Unfolding word).  Is any repo willing to host these?
>>>
>>> Here's a list of the projects:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zq9ySjMA-Dui0-J91IqD03qe-d2LyCb50rdcitMcZSY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Most of these these use a simple USFM markup with a single custom tag (s5) which is used to align parallel displays and must be stripped from the text.
>>>
>>> There are a few (both English, Greek, Hebrew, and possibly Russian) which include strongs or a strongs-like markup, and will need a bit more effort to host.)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>
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From outofthecube at icloud.com  Sun Apr  7 16:20:06 2019
From: outofthecube at icloud.com (TS)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 16:20:06 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] CrossWire repos?
In-Reply-To: <964ff286-e0d4-5715-4fe3-e36407e0ffcc@icloud.com>
References: <964ff286-e0d4-5715-4fe3-e36407e0ffcc@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <071be7e0-8a3c-4256-0505-757666d9e70e@icloud.com>

My impressions from this thread is that this is still an unresolved
server issue? If the new server was changed to be exactly like the old
server, then PocketSword should be able to download, correct? This
workaround is good and all, but it's still a workaround, which is to
say, a temporary fix.

p.s. - I didn't realize how much of this thread was about PocketSword.
Previously, based on the title and the snatches of the conversation that
crossed my eyes, my impression was that this conversation was mostly
about a server matter. I would have replied sooner regarding PocketSword
if I had known.

-TS

On 3/16/2019 1:17 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> I can add that for most older modules and some newer modules, the workaround also succeeds for installing the module search index automatically from our server.
>
> That?s because the indices are stored in a particular server directory whose path does not depend on the module download path or access protocol.
>
> However, there are still several CrossWire modules for which the search index was never created when the module was either first released or last updated.
>
> One example: Middle English : Wycliffe
>
> These omissions should and could be rectified by the ?Modules Team?.
> Let?s make it a better experience for PocketSword users.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 07:47, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Workaround for PocketSword module downloads from CrossWire.
>>
>> Add FTP Source
>>
>> This is one of the hidden options under the folder icon at top right.
>>
>> Set up as the greyed out example.
>>
>> Just tested successfully.
>>
>> Praise the Lord !
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Haslam
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 20:05, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback.  When I get time, I'll try to expand the test application to not simply perform a directory listing, but to actually try to install a module via the CURLHTTPTransport driver.
>>>
>>> On 3/11/19 11:38 AM, Johan Marais wrote:
>>>
>>>> Troy,
>>>>
>>>> I tried downloading 2 English bibles from CrossWire into PocketSword, but still the same, it took about 1 second to download and install, but nothing was installed.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Johan Marais
>>>>
>>>> On 11 Mar 2019, at 20:17, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have checked the configuration of both servers and made the IndexOptions align exactly.  I didn't notice much of a change, but could someone please check if they can install modules from CrossWire now?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also added a new test program which is not included in the build of standard test programs, but is available if anyone would like to look more deeply into the issue
>>>>>
>>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/tests/httptest.cpp
>>>>>
>>>>> For the record, I created the test program after aligning the IndexOptions on the server didn't appear to me to make much difference (e.g., the date format was still the same), with the intent to debug the problem, but both URLs in the test program parsed directory listings just fine...  So... Either, something in the IndexOptions did indeed make a minor adjustment to the output which fixed the problem, or else the problem is something entirely different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaak,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, of course we could create a generated index.html file for each folder and this would assure we could read the contents, but a goal is to keep deployment of these repositories easy for module publishers and http directory listings is only used by PocketSword.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/19 12:08 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Troy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who?d have thought that a date format would be so critical ?
>>>>>> It?s often the little things that catch us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nic Carter has replied off list.
>>>>>> He?s the pumpkin holder for PS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aside: Does any other SWORD front-end use the same parsing code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the new Apache server was configured, did we have a choice about the date format?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can a server setting be changed?
>>>>>> Would that in effect mend the PS module installer?
>>>>>> Without requiring any immediate work on PS.
>>>>>> (And without breaking anything else....)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, PS needs serious work to successfully recompile against iOS 12.1.x
>>>>>> It?s a long time since the last PS release!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 01:20, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, here's my guess.  Nic uses HTTP instead of FTP to read our distro and does some magic to parse Apache httpd directory listings.  Here's our old server and here's our new (as DM sent previously).  There are some slight differences (notice the date format, at lease).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> old: https://guest.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw
>>>>>>> new: https://ftp.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The parsing code is here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/src/mgr/curlhttpt.cpp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who owns PocketSword these days?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/7/19 1:18 PM, DM Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The URL that PocketSword uses https://ftp.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw has no problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2019, at 1:34 PM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did DM find out anything?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 13:43, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I?ll look at the server this weekend to see if I can see a problem there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It?s not the certificate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ? DM Smith
>>>>>>>>>>  From my phone. Brief. Weird autocorrections.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:35 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not just one device.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My wife & I each have an iPad Mini as well as an iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10, Tuomas Airaksinen <tuomas.airaksinen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this reproducible with other devices with PocketSword? Or only on this one device?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pe 1. maalisk. 2019 klo 13.08 David Haslam (dfhdfh at protonmail.com) kirjoitti:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The symptom is that the download process indicator shows no progress and then suddenly shows Done. Weird!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we find root cause?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 13:40, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too with Xiphos on Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why all of a sudden has it stopped working for PocketSword?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:23, Daniel Glassey <dglassey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just tried xiphos and it installed one OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:59 AM David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may simply reflect the different protocols used by JSword vs SWORD for module install.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet to try with Xiphos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 09:14, Tuomas Airaksinen <tuomas.airaksinen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just checked that with And Bible I can install modules from crosswire.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 28. helmik. 2019 klo 10.29 David Haslam (dfhdfh at protonmail.com) kirjoitti:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  From yesterday or before, I cannot install any module from our repos into PocketSword.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an outage or is it a certificate expired?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can still install modules from [eBible.org](http://ebible.org/) and Xiphos, so it?s not due to anything in the latest iOS 12.1.4 release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: Tuomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> T: Tuomas
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From outofthecube at icloud.com  Sun Apr  7 16:20:23 2019
From: outofthecube at icloud.com (TS)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 16:20:23 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Question about backwards compatibility and search
 index download-ability, especially in relation to low-cost,
 low-power computers (such as might be in developing countries?)
Message-ID: <3099e7ff-2911-1d40-a168-5efa7ea763cd@icloud.com>

Hi,

 ???? To put it simply, I was wondering what is Crosswire's or perhaps 
Troy's position on backwards compatibility. I thought that the desired 
goal, if possible, was for Sword to be able to run on as many devices as 
possible. However, recently I've seen in mailing list postings or emails 
that perhaps I was mistaken? It's also occurred to me that perhaps my 
impression is with regards to the Sword engine only and that this does 
not include front-end backwards compatibility? So, I'd appreciate some 
clarity on the matter.
 ???? In specific, I'm asking this question because in the past, I know 
that organizations have made projects to create simple, low-cost 
computers (such as OLPC). I know that the first gen OLPC was made around 
the same time as the first iPhone and had roughly similar specs (if I'm 
interpreting the specs correctly). It was the size of a small laptop, 
but did not have enough processing power to play videos. This type of 
computer was created for developing countries. So, if computers such as 
these exist enough, then it also seems to me that they may have problems 
generating search indexes the same way that the first iPhone did. 
Therefore, I'm wondering if perhaps there is still a good reason for the 
search indexes to be downloadable?
 ???? On the other hand, David's post back in Feb. 16,2019, titled 
"[sword-devel] ParaTExt Lite (Android OS)", contained a link to an 
article about the development of ParaText Lite. This article seemed to 
suggest that smartphones have penetrated even the most remote of places. 
So, it makes me wonder if the situation of people (such as those in 
developing countries) being stuck with old computers is perhaps not very 
large? I guess I don't know either way, but since nobody here (I think?) 
has brought it up and it would possibly be impacted by search indexes 
download-ability, this all seems like something worthwhile to ask/talk 
about.
 ???? (Btw, it seems to me that Android would probably be the dominant 
smartphone OS. I don't want to derail this post explaining "why", so it 
may be sufficient enough to mention that ParaText Lite was only made for 
Android OS.)
 ??? (Also, the current gen laptop of OLPC does have enough power, I 
think. I would also imagine that the current Raspberry Pi computers have 
enough power as well.)

-TS

-- 
- Timothy



From dmsmith at crosswire.org  Sun Apr  7 17:28:01 2019
From: dmsmith at crosswire.org (DM Smith)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 20:28:01 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Question about backwards compatibility and search
 index download-ability, especially in relation to low-cost,
 low-power computers (such as might be in developing countries?)
In-Reply-To: <3099e7ff-2911-1d40-a168-5efa7ea763cd@icloud.com>
References: <3099e7ff-2911-1d40-a168-5efa7ea763cd@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <BCC49A19-F358-41D6-9DC5-FC4F932B3463@crosswire.org>

I maintain JSword. We try to maintain backward compatibility with the lowest common denominator version of Java on devices that are up to 10 years old for computers and 5 years for mobiles. The OS version needs to be vendor supported. Android at this point is our boat anchor.

For me the most important backward compatibility is that old module continue to work. If an old module is updated then I?m not concerned with the prior version.

The other kind of compatibility is whether a frontend will work with a simple recompile with the current engine.

WRT to C++ SWORD, binary compatibility is not that important because linking is static. The interface has been backward compatible for over a decade. It still supports very old modules.

DM

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 7:20 PM, TS <outofthecube at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>      To put it simply, I was wondering what is Crosswire's or perhaps Troy's position on backwards compatibility. I thought that the desired goal, if possible, was for Sword to be able to run on as many devices as possible. However, recently I've seen in mailing list postings or emails that perhaps I was mistaken? It's also occurred to me that perhaps my impression is with regards to the Sword engine only and that this does not include front-end backwards compatibility? So, I'd appreciate some clarity on the matter.
>      In specific, I'm asking this question because in the past, I know that organizations have made projects to create simple, low-cost computers (such as OLPC). I know that the first gen OLPC was made around the same time as the first iPhone and had roughly similar specs (if I'm interpreting the specs correctly). It was the size of a small laptop, but did not have enough processing power to play videos. This type of computer was created for developing countries. So, if computers such as these exist enough, then it also seems to me that they may have problems generating search indexes the same way that the first iPhone did. Therefore, I'm wondering if perhaps there is still a good reason for the search indexes to be downloadable?
>      On the other hand, David's post back in Feb. 16,2019, titled "[sword-devel] ParaTExt Lite (Android OS)", contained a link to an article about the development of ParaText Lite. This article seemed to suggest that smartphones have penetrated even the most remote of places. So, it makes me wonder if the situation of people (such as those in developing countries) being stuck with old computers is perhaps not very large? I guess I don't know either way, but since nobody here (I think?) has brought it up and it would possibly be impacted by search indexes download-ability, this all seems like something worthwhile to ask/talk about.
>      (Btw, it seems to me that Android would probably be the dominant smartphone OS. I don't want to derail this post explaining "why", so it may be sufficient enough to mention that ParaText Lite was only made for Android OS.)
>     (Also, the current gen laptop of OLPC does have enough power, I think. I would also imagine that the current Raspberry Pi computers have enough power as well.)
> 
> -TS
> 
> -- 
> - Timothy
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page



From greg.hellings at gmail.com  Mon Apr  8 07:51:37 2019
From: greg.hellings at gmail.com (Greg Hellings)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 09:51:37 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Door43
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9hia_LwJjs9caLNUFV+YYRSZEpc-BxnX=piAG+bQmzSpNoZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ9hia9Ck1zMqq4hHAH7z=OhA3tdGLHLg5zxSpJbVuGy534V8Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c30658c0-1983-77b7-41f8-713579451663@eBible.org>
	<CAJ9hia_LwJjs9caLNUFV+YYRSZEpc-BxnX=piAG+bQmzSpNoZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHxvOV+ecGLBJPHpOrRW-JRZ+4GQdMQfE6-GJaQxs6aU57q-sA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 9:45 AM Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> That link is my hack of the Door43 catalog.  There is a (probably more
> accurate) json version which frustrated my attempts to open due to line
> length (1 row of text) freezing my editors. It probably will feed your
> methods better. The Wycliffe Associates list  of 'published' projects is
> described here:
>
> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/how-can-a-developer-access-door43-translations/187
>
> This list contains a further 50+ projects, Translation Notes-'tn' and
> Translation words-'tw', I am investigating these for converting to sword
> dictionary and commentary modules, respectively.  This effort is an outcome
> of David Haslam's recent suggestion to make a converter for markdown.
>
> Is there a Sword compatible markup language common to Genbooks,
> Commentaries, and Dictionaries that I can focus on converting Markdown to?
>

ThML markup in an imp-formatted file. ThML is the only one that cuts across
all types of text module.

--Greg
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Tue Apr  9 23:00:25 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter von Kaehne)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:00:25 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] TEI schema flawed?
Message-ID: <1b2b94121755bdcab733552a87d5104884e4033a.camel@gmx.net>

I am trying to validate a couple of new TEI modules and am getting
error messages which seem to refer to our schema and not to the module
I am trying to test. But frankly, this is way above my head.


peter at peterdell:~/Biblestuff/clean/frebailly$ xmllint --noout --schema
http://www.crosswire.org/OSIS/teiP5osis.2.5.0.xsd frebailly.tei.xml
http://www.crosswire.org/OSIS/examples.xsd:10: element complexType:
Schemas parser error : local complex type: The content model is not
determinist.
http://www.crosswire.org/OSIS/teiP5osis.2.5.0.xsd:16645: element
complexType: Schemas parser error : local complex type: The content
model is not determinist.
http://www.crosswire.org/OSIS/teiP5osis.2.5.0.xsd:16834: element
complexType: Schemas parser error : local complex type: The content
model is not determinist.
WXS schema http://www.crosswire.org/OSIS/teiP5osis.2.5.0.xsd failed to
compile

Any suggestions?




From refdoc at crosswire.org  Wed Apr 10 23:21:06 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:21:06 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] TEI dictionary examples
Message-ID: <-j8g62hwsd244-d7wzex8r71tx-1bmmva-87z85lbzwugs-wkgctgz6envmb27l0wxpd0ao-3wc399-kswkg286sr1y10mmqywqsfevdunfmgh6tipd809223ldlq3yxm6ql2-nj52j31km9n1-6muho6.1554963666134@email.android.com>

Our wiki points at two example TEI documents which unfortunately do not exist anymore on that location. 

Does anyone of the more long-term members here hold a copy of either the Webster 1913 or the CrossWire Strong dictionaries in TEI format as downloaded/received from Chris? 

I would like to fix the missing links and put stuff up where it is less likely to go AWOL.

Thanks!

Peter



Sent from my Huawei Mobile

From libor.stefek at logis.cz  Thu Apr 11 04:30:26 2019
From: libor.stefek at logis.cz (=?UTF-8?Q?Libor_=c5=a0tefek?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:30:26 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] CrossWire repository download statistics
In-Reply-To: <CAHxvOV+ecGLBJPHpOrRW-JRZ+4GQdMQfE6-GJaQxs6aU57q-sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ9hia9Ck1zMqq4hHAH7z=OhA3tdGLHLg5zxSpJbVuGy534V8Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<c30658c0-1983-77b7-41f8-713579451663@eBible.org>
	<CAJ9hia_LwJjs9caLNUFV+YYRSZEpc-BxnX=piAG+bQmzSpNoZg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHxvOV+ecGLBJPHpOrRW-JRZ+4GQdMQfE6-GJaQxs6aU57q-sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b4d99ad4-118e-a9ec-92d4-034bf020a824@logis.cz>

Hello,

I'm wondering - are there any download statistics per specific module?

I would like to write a letter to a copyright owner and this would be 
nice supporting information.

Regards,

Libor



From greg.hellings at gmail.com  Thu Apr 11 12:27:48 2019
From: greg.hellings at gmail.com (Greg Hellings)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:27:48 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] httptest
Message-ID: <CAHxvOVJub5BX2oJLhhQQaP4wMA40wsrX8zTjt9w_UkyqfvO4sw@mail.gmail.com>

I've attached a patch for the latest httptest that was added to SWORD. That
one test references the internal headers differently than all the other
test files do. If someone with commit privileges could please apply it to
the current SVN HEAD, that would be great. Thanks.

--Greg
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Thu Apr 11 14:03:10 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter von Kaehne)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:03:10 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Public domain texts in CrossWire
Message-ID: <d51abd8a566ac72d1f299317e53a02a3ab68ca61.camel@gmx.net>

Dear all,

First of all thanks for the reaction to my request for the texts of the
two dictionary modules. I have received them from several sources and
have put them up for public use, contributions etc.

Which brings me to a second related matter. The module team  have a
growing presence on GitLab where we store some of our public domain and
otherwise freely licensed texts and work on new texts together.

https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society

Anyone who wants to get involved - please do so!

Yours

Peter






From refdoc at crosswire.org  Fri Apr 12 08:55:35 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:55:35 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia
Message-ID: <E1hEyWd-0004xy-BR@crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItNomiBibbia.
This is is an updated version of ItNomiBibbia.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From contact at tklein.info  Sat Apr 13 03:33:18 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 12:33:18 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do not
 come with Strongs support
Message-ID: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>

Hi,

I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.

Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to 
translations that do not come with Strongs support?

The approach would be like this:
- Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
- Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the 
target translation, by using a regular dictionary

There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not 
a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target 
translation.
Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations 
that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words 
would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping 
words/Strongs correctly.

What do you think?
I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations 
specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English 
translation mapping.

Have a nice weekend!

Best regards,
Tobias



From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 13 04:00:30 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:00:30 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
	not come with Strongs support
In-Reply-To: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
References: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
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This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.

They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.

Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.

Best regards,

David

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>
> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>
> The approach would be like this:
> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>
> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
> translation.
> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
> words/Strongs correctly.
>
> What do you think?
> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
> translation mapping.
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 13 04:08:12 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:08:12 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
	not come with Strongs support
In-Reply-To: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
References: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
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For a translation already in USFM format, the target should be to produce Strong?s added text in USFM 3.0 format using Word Level Attributes.

Refer to the online documentation for USFM 3 at UBSICAP.

In other words, don?t leave the addition of Strongs?s to a derivative output format such as OSIS.

Best regards,

David

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>
> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>
> The approach would be like this:
> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>
> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
> translation.
> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
> words/Strongs correctly.
>
> What do you think?
> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
> translation mapping.
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From contact at tklein.info  Sat Apr 13 04:50:55 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:50:55 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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Hi David,

Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software 
used by the STEP team is open source?

Best regards,
Tobias

On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s 
> Numbers to the ESV.
>
> They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>
> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info 
> <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>>
>> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>>
>> The approach would be like this:
>> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>
>> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
>> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
>> translation.
>> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
>> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>> words/Strongs correctly.
>>
>> What do you think?
>> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>> translation mapping.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 05:03:37 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 07:03:37 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
In-Reply-To: <9272fc01-9fa7-ca35-e936-5f4a13e2de67@tklein.info>
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	<9272fc01-9fa7-ca35-e936-5f4a13e2de67@tklein.info>
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The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" process
(which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working on fixing
stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages,
if I understand chat room babble.

https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101

http://www.autographa.com/about/



On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software
> used by the STEP team is open source?
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
> On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>
> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s Numbers
> to the ESV.
>
> They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>
> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>
> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>
> The approach would be like this:
> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>
> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
> translation.
> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
> words/Strongs correctly.
>
> What do you think?
> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
> translation mapping.
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
>
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Sat Apr 13 05:16:41 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (refdoc at gmx.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:16:41 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 13 05:23:52 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 12:23:52 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
	not come with Strongs support
In-Reply-To: <9272fc01-9fa7-ca35-e936-5f4a13e2de67@tklein.info>
References: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
	<BiZjFD7wTR886TjQ8BHVGrcwMwovfC9Un9SyEbrw1Vyy6jHePw-YcId-EYdx3hgG0Fizbe3kgPQoqdMXrQe2k6gXV-ppBnb_wmm0CFpQhAE=@protonmail.com>
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No - other than a loose description.

Ask David I-B and/or Jamie (ARA) Jamieson.

David

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:50, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software used by the STEP team is open source?
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>
>> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.
>>
>> They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>>
>> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>>> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>>>
>>> The approach would be like this:
>>> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>>> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>>> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>>
>>> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
>>> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
>>> translation.
>>> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
>>> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>>> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>>> words/Strongs correctly.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>>> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>>> translation mapping.
>>>
>>> Have a nice weekend!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tobias
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 13 05:37:26 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 12:37:26 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
	not come with Strongs support
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Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:

I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually adding Strong?s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source Text.

The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account.

The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters.

But there?s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment.

Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers, the text can be sorted on the Word column.

This facilitated adding Strong?s to multiple instances of the same Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order can be restored by a sort on the line numbers column.

Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt with and preserved.

Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress.

Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for \wj_...\wj*

Best regards,

David

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet.
>
> I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a machine driven process
>
> 1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts (Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers
>
> 2) use names of places and people to tag those first
>
> 3) use dictionaries to align further
>
> 4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform not yet checked verses
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do not come with Strongs support
> From: Michael H
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>> The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working on fixing stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if I understand chat room babble.
>>
>> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>>
>> http://www.autographa.com/about/
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software used by the STEP team is open source?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tobias
>>>
>>> On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>>>
>>>> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.
>>>>
>>>> They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>>>>
>>>> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>>>>> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>>>>>
>>>>> The approach would be like this:
>>>>> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>>>>> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>>>>> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>>>>
>>>>> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
>>>>> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
>>>>> translation.
>>>>> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
>>>>> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>>>>> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>>>>> words/Strongs correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>>>>> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>>>>> translation mapping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>>
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From araj at critos.co.uk  Sat Apr 13 06:12:28 2019
From: araj at critos.co.uk (Jamie)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 14:12:28 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that
	do	not come with Strongs support
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David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this kind of thing.  I won?t attempt to characterise how things stand at present, nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out of date, and may end up misrepresenting things.  I did notice this thread, though, and have drawn it to his attention, so I imagine he?ll be in touch (he?s not answering my emails currently so I assume he may be out for the day).

 

Jamie

 

 

From: David Haslam [mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com] 
Sent: 13 April 2019 13:37
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do not come with Strongs support

 

Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:

 

I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually adding Strong?s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source Text. 

 

The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account. 

 

The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters. 

 

But there?s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment. 

 

Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers, the text can be sorted on the Word column. 

 

This facilitated adding Strong?s to multiple instances of the same Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order can be restored by a sort on the line numbers column. 

 

Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt with and preserved. 

 

Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress. 

 

Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for \wj_...\wj*

 

Best regards,

 

David

 

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

 

 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>  <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> > wrote:

I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet. 

I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a machine driven process

1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts (Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers

2) use names of places and people to tag those first

3) use dictionaries to align further

4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform not yet checked verses


Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do not come with Strongs support
From: Michael H 
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum 
CC: 




The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working on fixing stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if I understand chat room babble. 

https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101

http://www.autographa.com/about/



 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info <mailto:contact at tklein.info> > wrote:

Hi David,

Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software used by the STEP team is open source?

Best regards,
Tobias

On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:

This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV. 

 

They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments. 

 

Ask David Instone-Brewer for details. 

 

Best regards,

 

David

 

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

 

 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info <mailto:contact at tklein.info> > wrote: 

Hi,

I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.

Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
translations that do not come with Strongs support?

The approach would be like this:
- Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
- Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
target translation, by using a regular dictionary

There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
translation.
Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
words/Strongs correctly.

What do you think?
I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
translation mapping.

Have a nice weekend!

Best regards,
Tobias


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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 13 06:45:14 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:45:14 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia
In-Reply-To: <E1hEyWd-0004xy-BR@crosswire.org>
References: <E1hEyWd-0004xy-BR@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <cc11ddfa-70e3-01e3-06e0-0d5b49665025@gmail.com>



Il 12/04/2019 17:55, refdoc at crosswire.org ha scritto:
> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItNomiBibbia.
> This is is an updated version of ItNomiBibbia.
> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
I can't find it in the crosswire server? Maybe I need to way few days?
> yours
>
> The Module Team
>
> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 13 08:34:18 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 08:34:18 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations
	that	do	not come with Strongs support
In-Reply-To: <003301d4f1fa$8c9351d0$a5b9f570$@critos.co.uk>
References: <da9d5082-44e7-0223-a024-364b082a2b42@tklein.info>
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The code I use for mapping across translations is in our tools repo here. It does a reasonable job on same language literal Bibles and isolates to word alignment algorithm to a single method so it can be adjusted without understanding all the other code in there.

http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/

I think I have a newer matching algorithm I've used for adding strongs to the Tyndale Greek New Testament and to NA28, which I still need to check in, but the shell to do the work is generally there. I'll try to checkin any updates soon.

For what it's worth,

Troy



On April 13, 2019 6:12:28 AM MST, Jamie <araj at critos.co.uk> wrote:
>David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this kind of
>thing.  I won?t attempt to characterise how things stand at present,
>nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out of date, and may
>end up misrepresenting things.  I did notice this thread, though, and
>have drawn it to his attention, so I imagine he?ll be in touch (he?s
>not answering my emails currently so I assume he may be out for the
>day).
>
> 
>
>Jamie
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: David Haslam [mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com] 
>Sent: 13 April 2019 13:37
>To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that
>do not come with Strongs support
>
> 
>
>Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:
>
> 
>
>I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that Vince
>LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually adding Strong?s
>to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source Text. 
>
> 
>
>The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account. 
>
> 
>
>The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters. 
>
> 
>
>But there?s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment. 
>
> 
>
>Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers, the
>text can be sorted on the Word column. 
>
> 
>
>This facilitated adding Strong?s to multiple instances of the same
>Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order can be
>restored by a sort on the line numbers column. 
>
> 
>
>Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt with and
>preserved. 
>
> 
>
>Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since done
>MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress. 
>
> 
>
>Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for
>\wj_...\wj*
>
> 
>
>Best regards,
>
> 
>
>David
>
> 
>
>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
> 
>
> 
>
>On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> 
><refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> > wrote:
>
>I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet. 
>
>I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a machine
>driven process
>
>1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts (Synodal)
>and drop on each verse the relevant numbers
>
>2) use names of places and people to tag those first
>
>3) use dictionaries to align further
>
>4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform not yet
>checked verses
>
>
>Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>autocorrects.
>
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that
>do not come with Strongs support
>From: Michael H 
>To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum 
>CC: 
>
>
>
>
>The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" process
>(which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working on
>fixing stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification across
>languages, if I understand chat room babble. 
>
>https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>
>http://www.autographa.com/about/
>
>
>
> 
>
>On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info
><mailto:contact at tklein.info> > wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>
>Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software
>used by the STEP team is open source?
>
>Best regards,
>Tobias
>
>On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>
>This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s
>Numbers to the ESV. 
>
> 
>
>They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments. 
>
> 
>
>Ask David Instone-Brewer for details. 
>
> 
>
>Best regards,
>
> 
>
>David
>
> 
>
>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
> 
>
> 
>
>On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info
><mailto:contact at tklein.info> > wrote: 
>
>Hi,
>
>I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>
>Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>
>The approach would be like this:
>- Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>- Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>
>There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
>a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
>translation.
>Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
>that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>words/Strongs correctly.
>
>What do you think?
>I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>translation mapping.
>
>Have a nice weekend!
>
>Best regards,
>Tobias
>
>
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><mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org> 
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> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 13 08:38:46 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:38:46 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia
In-Reply-To: <cc11ddfa-70e3-01e3-06e0-0d5b49665025@gmail.com>
References: <E1hEyWd-0004xy-BR@crosswire.org>
	<cc11ddfa-70e3-01e3-06e0-0d5b49665025@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <tH0T4R2q95mQ6EoODCJ_41PKMBOEKuKVGbOm3adEvbDsgDAmP1-V7PGyk5xO5F0ZwCIJXq0LP46PhtDGVQnNyGldEscQuMgHzlncgZ0dJ_c=@protonmail.com>

I cannot see it either, despite using the FTP Source workaround in PocketSword.

David

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 14:45, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Il 12/04/2019 17:55, refdoc at crosswire.org ha scritto:
>> Dear All,
>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItNomiBibbia.
>> This is is an updated version of ItNomiBibbia.
>> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
> I can't find it in the crosswire server? Maybe I need to way few days?
>> yours
>>
>> The Module Team
>>
>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From contact at tklein.info  Sun Apr 14 07:41:54 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:41:54 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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Thanks, Troy! I'll have a look.

Best regards,
Tobias

On 13.04.19 17:34, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> The code I use for mapping across translations is in our tools repo 
> here. It does a reasonable job on same language literal Bibles and 
> isolates to word alignment algorithm to a single method so it can be 
> adjusted without understanding all the other code in there.
>
> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/
>
> I think I have a newer matching algorithm I've used for adding strongs 
> to the Tyndale Greek New Testament and to NA28, which I still need to 
> check in, but the shell to do the work is generally there. I'll try to 
> checkin any updates soon.
>
> For what it's worth,
>
> Troy
>
>
>
> On April 13, 2019 6:12:28 AM MST, Jamie <araj at critos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this
>     kind of thing.? I won?t attempt to characterise how things stand
>     at present, nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out of
>     date, and may end up misrepresenting things.? I did notice this
>     thread, though, and have drawn it to his attention, so I imagine
>     he?ll be in touch (he?s not answering my emails currently so I
>     assume he may be out for the day).
>
>     Jamie
>
>     *From:*David Haslam [mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com]
>     *Sent:* 13 April 2019 13:37
>     *To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>     <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
>     translations that do not come with Strongs support
>
>     Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:
>
>     I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that
>     Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually adding
>     Strong?s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source Text.
>
>     The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account.
>
>     The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters.
>
>     But there?s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment.
>
>     Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers,
>     the text can be sorted on the Word column.
>
>     This facilitated adding Strong?s to multiple instances of the same
>     Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order can be
>     restored by a sort on the line numbers column.
>
>     Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt with
>     and preserved.
>
>     Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since
>     done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress.
>
>     Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for
>     \wj_...\wj*
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     David
>
>     Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>     On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, refdoc at gmx.net
>     <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>>
>     wrote:
>
>         I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet.
>
>         I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a
>         machine driven process
>
>         1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts
>         (Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers
>
>         2) use names of places and people to tag those first
>
>         3) use dictionaries to align further
>
>         4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform
>         not yet checked verses
>
>
>         Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>         autocorrects.
>
>
>
>         -------- Original Message --------
>         Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
>         translations that do not come with Strongs support
>         From: Michael H
>         To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>         CC:
>
>
>             The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its
>             "alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers,
>             but they also are working on fixing stray words into a
>             common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if
>             I understand chat room babble.
>
>             https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>
>             http://www.autographa.com/about/
>
>             On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein
>             <contact at tklein.info <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi David,
>
>                 Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know
>                 whether that software used by the STEP team is open
>                 source?
>
>                 Best regards,
>                 Tobias
>
>                 On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>
>                     This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for
>                     adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.
>
>                     They used bespoke software followed by manual
>                     adjustments.
>
>                     Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>
>                     Best regards,
>
>                     David
>
>                     Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>                     On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein
>                     <contact at tklein.info <mailto:contact at tklein.info>>
>                     wrote:
>
>                         Hi,
>
>                         I have an idea that I would like to run by you
>                         guys.
>
>                         Would it be possible to automatically map
>                         Strongs numbers to
>                         translations that do not come with Strongs
>                         support?
>
>                         The approach would be like this:
>                         - Take a translation that comes with Strongs
>                         numbers
>                         - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a
>                         corresponding word in the
>                         target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>
>                         There may be some validation / manual checking
>                         needed when there is not
>                         a clear match between a word in the source
>                         translation and the target
>                         translation.
>                         Furthermore, this would probably only work
>                         with pairs of translations
>                         that are both aiming to be literal. In that
>                         case the order of words
>                         would be very similar and would increase
>                         chances of mapping
>                         words/Strongs correctly.
>
>                         What do you think?
>                         I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to
>                         German translations
>                         specifically. But it could technically even
>                         work for English/English
>                         translation mapping.
>
>                         Have a nice weekend!
>
>                         Best regards,
>                         Tobias
>
>
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>                         sword-devel at crosswire.org
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From contact at tklein.info  Sun Apr 14 07:47:34 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:47:34 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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Thanks for the links, Michael. I'll have a look at Autographa.

Best regards,
Tobias

On 13.04.19 14:03, Michael H wrote:
> The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" 
> process (which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working 
> on fixing stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification 
> across languages, if I understand chat room babble.
>
> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>
> http://www.autographa.com/about/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info 
> <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>
>     Hi David,
>
>     Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that
>     software used by the STEP team is open source?
>
>     Best regards,
>     Tobias
>
>     On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>>     This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding
>>     Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.
>>
>>     They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>>
>>     Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     David
>>
>>     Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>>     On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info
>>     <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>>>
>>>     Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>>>     translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>>>
>>>     The approach would be like this:
>>>     - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>>>     - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>>>     target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>>
>>>     There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there
>>>     is not
>>>     a clear match between a word in the source translation and the
>>>     target
>>>     translation.
>>>     Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of
>>>     translations
>>>     that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>>>     would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>>>     words/Strongs correctly.
>>>
>>>     What do you think?
>>>     I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>>>     specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>>>     translation mapping.
>>>
>>>     Have a nice weekend!
>>>
>>>     Best regards,
>>>     Tobias
>>>
>>>
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 07:52:15 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 09:52:15 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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I looked at the Linux version and its limited.  If you install the windows
version and find success, I'd like to know.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 9:49 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Thanks for the links, Michael. I'll have a look at Autographa.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
> On 13.04.19 14:03, Michael H wrote:
>
> The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its "alignment" process
> (which means adding strongs numbers, but they also are working on fixing
> stray words into a common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages,
> if I understand chat room babble.
>
> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>
> http://www.autographa.com/about/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know whether that software
>> used by the STEP team is open source?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tobias
>> On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>>
>> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for adding Strong?s
>> Numbers to the ESV.
>>
>> They used bespoke software followed by manual adjustments.
>>
>> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an idea that I would like to run by you guys.
>>
>> Would it be possible to automatically map Strongs numbers to
>> translations that do not come with Strongs support?
>>
>> The approach would be like this:
>> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs numbers
>> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a corresponding word in the
>> target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>
>> There may be some validation / manual checking needed when there is not
>> a clear match between a word in the source translation and the target
>> translation.
>> Furthermore, this would probably only work with pairs of translations
>> that are both aiming to be literal. In that case the order of words
>> would be very similar and would increase chances of mapping
>> words/Strongs correctly.
>>
>> What do you think?
>> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to German translations
>> specifically. But it could technically even work for English/English
>> translation mapping.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tobias
>>
>>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 14 09:49:13 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:49:13 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] The Septuagint
Message-ID: <2j_fuf2-1JvloTRHdwS9T1IPkA5yGvZoMQec_5l8YPmS9Fem32uZeLEvUHjZ8YQondU1sGFH1i0-4dRbVRUpf4Bz_ktDypbvjzGWu4sRzHY=@protonmail.com>

FYI. A lengthy article about the LXX.

https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2019/03/20/the-septuagint-a-bible-translation-that-changed-the-world/

David

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From contact at tklein.info  Sun Apr 14 10:35:28 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:35:28 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Running bible software on a Windows tablet
Message-ID: <c54b86a2-6468-c66c-53fa-4b850eb36e6a@tklein.info>

Hi,

I've recently purchased a Microsoft Surface Go tablet and I'm pretty 
excited about this. I specifically got this tablet so that I don't have 
to sit at church with my laptop when I want to capture information in my 
bible software (Ezra Project).

Generally I'm not a big fan of Windows, but I'm also pragmatic ...
I owned tablets before, but the big difference with this one is that 
it's a PC running a standard Windows, which in turn means that you can 
run any Windows PC software on it.

So with this device you get a compact (10 inch touch screen) mobile 
device that runs existing PC-based software without any additional 
porting efforts. And that's pretty exciting.
The Surface Go is not super-fast (1.6 Ghz Intel CPU), but certainly good 
enough for bible software.

I wanted to share this info with you, since some of you may also want to 
use existing bible software "on the go" - without porting efforts to a 
new platform.

Best regards,
Tobias



From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 14 11:18:43 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 20:18:43 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Running bible software on a Windows tablet
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Il 14/04/2019 19:35, Tobias Klein ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> I've recently purchased a Microsoft Surface Go tablet and I'm pretty
> excited about this. I specifically got this tablet so that I don't
> have to sit at church with my laptop when I want to capture
> information in my bible software (Ezra Project).
>
> Generally I'm not a big fan of Windows, but I'm also pragmatic ...
> I owned tablets before, but the big difference with this one is that
> it's a PC running a standard Windows, which in turn means that you can
> run any Windows PC software on it.
>
Install Debian or Ubuntu-Mate
<https://www.infofuge.com/install-ubuntu-18-04-on-microsoft-surface-go/>
on it ? Problem solved ;)
> So with this device you get a compact (10 inch touch screen) mobile
> device that runs existing PC-based software without any additional
> porting efforts. And that's pretty exciting.
> The Surface Go is not super-fast (1.6 Ghz Intel CPU), but certainly
> good enough for bible software.
>
> I wanted to share this info with you, since some of you may also want
> to use existing bible software "on the go" - without porting efforts
> to a new platform.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Sun Apr 14 12:51:47 2019
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 20:51:47 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Running bible software on a Windows tablet
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:45:15 +1200
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sun Apr 14 15:38:50 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 15:38:50 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to translations that do
 not come with Strongs support
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I've updated migratetags with my latest updates and extracted the
"matcher" logic out to its own class to make it easier to adjust per job.

http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/


On 4/14/19 7:41 AM, Tobias Klein wrote:
>
> Thanks, Troy! I'll have a look.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> On 13.04.19 17:34, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> The code I use for mapping across translations is in our tools repo
>> here. It does a reasonable job on same language literal Bibles and
>> isolates to word alignment algorithm to a single method so it can be
>> adjusted without understanding all the other code in there.
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/
>>
>> I think I have a newer matching algorithm I've used for adding
>> strongs to the Tyndale Greek New Testament and to NA28, which I still
>> need to check in, but the shell to do the work is generally there.
>> I'll try to checkin any updates soon.
>>
>> For what it's worth,
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>
>> On April 13, 2019 6:12:28 AM MST, Jamie <araj at critos.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>     David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this
>>     kind of thing.? I won?t attempt to characterise how things stand
>>     at present, nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out
>>     of date, and may end up misrepresenting things.? I did notice
>>     this thread, though, and have drawn it to his attention, so I
>>     imagine he?ll be in touch (he?s not answering my emails currently
>>     so I assume he may be out for the day).
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Jamie
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     *From:*David Haslam [mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com]
>>     *Sent:* 13 April 2019 13:37
>>     *To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>     <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
>>     translations that do not come with Strongs support
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that
>>     Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually
>>     adding Strong?s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source
>>     Text.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     But there?s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers,
>>     the text can be sorted on the Word column.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     This facilitated adding Strong?s to multiple instances of the
>>     same Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order
>>     can be restored by a sort on the line numbers column.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt
>>     with and preserved.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since
>>     done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress.?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for
>>     \wj_...\wj*
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     David
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     ?
>>
>>     On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, refdoc at gmx.net
>>     <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet.
>>
>>         I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a
>>         machine driven process
>>
>>         1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts
>>         (Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers
>>
>>         2) use names of places and people to tag those first
>>
>>         3) use dictionaries to align further
>>
>>         4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform
>>         not yet checked verses
>>
>>
>>         Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and
>>         weird autocorrects.
>>
>>
>>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
>>         translations that do not come with Strongs support
>>         From: Michael H
>>         To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>         CC:
>>
>>
>>             The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its
>>             "alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers,
>>             but they also are working on fixing stray words into a
>>             common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if
>>             I understand chat room babble.?
>>
>>             https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
>>
>>             http://www.autographa.com/about/
>>
>>             ?
>>
>>             On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein
>>             <contact at tklein.info <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi David,
>>
>>                 Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know
>>                 whether that software used by the STEP team is open
>>                 source?
>>
>>                 Best regards,
>>                 Tobias
>>
>>                 On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
>>
>>                     This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team
>>                     for adding Strong?s Numbers to the ESV.?
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     They used bespoke software followed by manual
>>                     adjustments.?
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.?
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     Best regards,
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     David
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     ?
>>
>>                     On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein
>>                     <contact at tklein.info
>>                     <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Hi,
>>
>>                         I have an idea that I would like to run by
>>                         you guys.
>>
>>                         Would it be possible to automatically map
>>                         Strongs numbers to
>>                         translations that do not come with Strongs
>>                         support?
>>
>>                         The approach would be like this:
>>                         - Take a translation that comes with Strongs
>>                         numbers
>>                         - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a
>>                         corresponding word in the
>>                         target translation, by using a regular dictionary
>>
>>                         There may be some validation / manual
>>                         checking needed when there is not
>>                         a clear match between a word in the source
>>                         translation and the target
>>                         translation.
>>                         Furthermore, this would probably only work
>>                         with pairs of translations
>>                         that are both aiming to be literal. In that
>>                         case the order of words
>>                         would be very similar and would increase
>>                         chances of mapping
>>                         words/Strongs correctly.
>>
>>                         What do you think?
>>                         I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to
>>                         German translations
>>                         specifically. But it could technically even
>>                         work for English/English
>>                         translation mapping.
>>
>>                         Have a nice weekend!
>>
>>                         Best regards,
>>                         Tobias
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 15 13:35:17 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:35:17 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] It locale problem with Judith
Message-ID: <9377e877-a303-45ac-eb1d-da419c6e9d15@gmail.com>

Hello,
I have a problem for what I can't found a solution. Maybe you can help
me. I was testing again the it-utf8.conf with xiphos. And when I jump
till Judith, it refuse to go in the book. If I comment the line
Judith=Giuditta in the file it is ok. And if I wrote Judith=Judith, it
works too! With the French it is also OK.
Any idea? Thanks.
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# File creation: 2019-03-30
# Italian translation for Sword
# Provided by Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com>

[Meta]
Name=it
Description=Italiano (Unicode)
Encoding=UTF-8

[Text]
Genesis=Genesi
Exodus=Esodo
Leviticus=Levitico
Numbers=Numeri
Deuteronomy=Deuteronomio
Joshua=Giosu?
Judges=Giudici
Ruth=Rut
I Samuel=1 Samuele
II Samuel=2 Samuele
I Kings=1 Re
II Kings=2 Re
I Chronicles=1 Cronache
II Chronicles=2 Cronache
Ezra=Esdra
Nehemiah=Nehemia
Esther=Ester
Job=Giobbe
Psalms=Salmi
Proverbs=Proverbi
Ecclesiastes=Qoelet
Song of Solomon=Cantico dei Cantici
Isaiah=Isaia
Jeremiah=Geremia
Lamentations=Lamentazioni
Ezekiel=Ezechiele
Daniel=Daniele
Hosea=Osea
Joel=Gioele
Amos=Amos
Obadiah=Abdia
Jonah=Giona
Micah=Michea
Nahum=Naum
Habakkuk=Abacuc
Zephaniah=Sofonia
Haggai=Aggeo
Zechariah=Zaccaria
Malachi=Malachia
Matthew=Matteo
Mark=Marco
Luke=Luca
John=Giovanni
Acts=Atti degli Apostoli
Romans=Romani
I Corinthians=1 Corinzi
II Corinthians=2 Corinzi
Galatians=Galati
Ephesians=Efesini
Philippians=Filippesi
Colossians=Colossesi
I Thessalonians=1 Tessalonicesi
II Thessalonians=2 Tessalonicesi
I Timothy=1 Timoteo
II Timothy=2 Timoteo
Titus=Tito
Philemon=Filemone
Hebrews=Ebrei
James=Giacomo
I Peter=1 Pietro
II Peter=2 Pietro
I John=1 Giovanni
II John=2 Giovanni
III John=3 Giovanni
Jude=Giuda
Revelation of John=Apocalisse di Giovanni

# Apocrypha/Deuterocanon* (22)
# Tobit
Tobit=Tobia
# Judith
Judith=Giuditta
# Esther (Greek)
Esther (Greek)=Ester greco
# Additions to Esther
Additions to Esther=Addizioni a Ester
# Wisdom
Wisdom=Sapienza
# Sirach (Prologue)
Sirach (Prologue)=Prologo del Siracide
# Sirach
Sirach=Siracide
# Baruch
Baruch=Baruc
# Epistle of Jeremiah
Epistle of Jeremiah=Lettera di Geremia
# Daniel (Greek)
Daniel (Greek)=Daniele greco
# Additions to Daniel
Additions to Daniel=Addizioni a Daniele
# Prayer of Azariah
Prayer of Azariah=Preghiera di Azaria
# Susanna
Susanna=Susanna
# Bel and the Dragon
Bel and the Dragon=Bel e il drago
# I Maccabees
I Maccabees=1 Maccabei
# II Maccabees
II Maccabees=2 Maccabei
# III Maccabees
III Maccabees=3 Maccabei
# IV Maccabees
IV Maccabees=4 Maccabei
# Prayer of Manasses
Prayer of Manasses=Preghiera di Manasse
# I Esdras
I Esdras=1 Esdra
# II Esdras
II Esdras=2 Esdra
# Additional Psalm
Additional Psalm=Salmo 151

# Rahlfs' LXX* (2)
# Odes
Odes=Odi di Salomone
# Psalms of Solomon
Psalms of Solomon=Salmi di Salomone

[Book Abbrevs]

GENESI=Gen
ESODO=Exod
LEVITICO=Lev
NUMERI=Num
DEUTERONOMIO=Deut
GIOSU?=Josh
GIUDICI=Judg
RUT=Ruth

1. SAMUELE=1Sam
1 SAMUELE=1Sam
1SAMUELE=1Sam

2. SAMUELE=2Sam
2 SAMUELE=2Sam
2SAMUELE=2Sam

1. RE=1Kgs
1 RE=1Kgs
1RE=1Kgs

2. RE=2Kgs
2 RE=2Kgs
2RE=2Kgs

1. CRONACHE=1Chr
1 CRONACHE=1Chr
1CRONACHE=1Chr

2. CRONACHE=2Chr
2 CRONACHE=2Chr
2CRONACHE=2Chr

ESDRA=Ezra
NEHEMIA=Neh
ESTER=Esth
GIOBBE=Job
SALMI=Ps
PROVERBI=Prov
ECCLESIASTE=Eccl
QOELET=Eccl
CANTICO DEI CANTICI=Song
ISAIA=Isa
GEREMIA=Jer
LAMENTAZIONI=Lam
EZECHIELE=Ezek
DANIELE=Dan
OSEA=Hos
GIOELE=Joel
AMOS=Amos
ABDIA=Obad
GIONA=Jonah
MICHEA=Mic
NAUM=Nah
ABACUC=Hab
SOFONIA=Zeph
AGGEO=Hag
ZACCARIA=Zech
MALACHIA=Mal
MATTEO=Matt
MARCO=Mark
LUCA=Luke
GIOVANNI=John
ATTI=Acts
ROMANI=Rom
1 CORINZI=1Cor
1. CORINZI=1Cor

2 CORINZI=2Cor
2. CORINZI=2Cor
GALATI=Gal
EFESINI=Eph
FILIPPESI=Phil
COLOSSESI=Col

1. TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1 TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1TESSALONICESI=1Thess

2. TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2 TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2TESSALONICESI=2Thess

1. TIMOTEO=1Tim
1 TIMOTEO=1Tim
1TIMOTEO=1Tim

2. TIMOTEO=2Tim
2 TIMOTEO=2Tim
2TIMOTEO=2Tim

TITO=Titus
FILEMONE=Phlm
EBREI=Heb
GIACOMO=Jas

1. PIETRO=1Pet
1 PIETRO=1Pet
1PIETRO=1Pet

2. PIETRO=2Pet
2 PIETRO=2Pet
2PIETRO=2Pet

1. GIOVANNI=1John
1 GIOVANNI=1John
1GIOVANNI=1John

2. GIOVANNI=2John
2 GIOVANNI=2John
2GIOVANNI=2John

3. GIOVANNI=3John
3 GIOVANNI=3John
3GIOVANNI=3John

GIUDA=Jude
APOCALISSE=Rev

TOBIA=Tob
GIUDITTA=Gdt
SAPIENZA=Wis
PROLOGO DEL SIRACIDE=SirP
SIRACIDE=Sir
BARUC=Bar
DANIELE GRECO=DanGr
SUSANNA=Sus
BEL E IL DRAGO=Bel
1 MACCABEI=1Macc
2 MACCABEI=2Macc
3 MACCABEI=3Macc
4 MACCABEI=4Macc
PREGHIERA DI MANASSE=PrMan
1 ESDRA=1Esd
2 ESDRA=2Esd
SALMO 151=AddPs
GIOSU? (ALEXANDRINUS)=JoshA
GIUDICI (VATICANUS)=JudgB
TOBIA (SINAITICUS)=TobS
SUSANNA (TH?ODOTION)=SusTh
DANIELE (TH?ODOTION)=DanTh
BEL E IL DRAGO (TH?ODOTION)=BelTh
V ESDRA=5Esd
APOCALISSE D?ESDRA=4Esd
VI ESDRA=6Esd
4 BARUC=4Bar

##Italian Abbrev##
1 C=1Cor
1 CO=1Cor
1 COR=1Cor
1 CORINZI=1Cor
1 CR=1Chr
1 CRO=1Chr
1 CRON=1Chr
1 CRONACHE=1Chr
1 GIOVANNI=1John
1 GV=1John
1 PIETRO=1Pet
1 PT=1Pet
1 RE=1Kgs
1 SAM=1Sam
1 SAMUELE=1Sam
1 TESS=1Thess
1 TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1 TIM=1Tim
1 TIMOTEO=1Tim
1 TM=1Tim
1 TS=1Thess
1C=1Cor
1COR=1Cor
1CORINZI=1Cor
1CR=1Cor
1CRO=1Chr
1CRON=1Chr
1CRONACHE=1Chr
1GIOVANNI=1John
1GV=1John
1M=1Macc
1 M=1Macc
1MA=1Macc
1 MA=1Macc
1MAC=1Macc
1 MAC=1Macc
1PIETRO=1Pet
1PT=1Pet
1RE=1Kgs
1SAM=1Sam
1SAMUELE=1Sam
1TESS=1Thess
1TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1TIM=1Tim
1TIMOTEO=1Tim
1TM=1Tim
1TS=1Thess
2 C=2Cor
2 COR=2Cor
2 CORINZI=2Cor
2 CR=2Cor
2 CRO=2Chr
2 CRON=2Chr
2 CRONACHE=2Chr
2 GIOVANNI=2John
2 GV=2John
2M=2Macc
2 M=2Macc
2MA=2Macc
2 MA=2Macc
2MAC=2Macc
2 MAC=2Macc
2 PIETRO=2Pet
2 PT=2Pet
2 RE=2Kgs
2 SAM=2Sam
2 SAMUELE=2Sam
2 TESS=2Thess
2 TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2 TIM=2Tim
2 TIMOTEO=2Tim
2 TM=2Tim
2 TS=2Thess
2C=2Cor
2COR=2Cor
2CORINZI=2Cor
2CR=2Cor
2CRO=2Chr
2CRON=2Chr
2CRONACHE=2Chr
2GIOVANNI=2John
2GV=2John
2PIETRO=2Pet
2PT=2Pet
2RE=2Kgs
2SAM=2Sam
2SAMUELE=2Sam
2TESS=2Thess
2TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2TIM=2Tim
2TIMOTEO=2Tim
2TM=2Tim
2TS=2Thess
3 GIOVANNI=3John
3 GV=3John
3GIOVANNI=3John
3GV=3John
AB=Hab
ABACUC=Hab
ABD=Obad
ABDIA=Obad
AGG=Hag
AGGEO=Hag
AM=Amos
AMO=Amos
AMOS=Amos
AP=Rev
APOC=Rev
APOCALISSE DI GIOVANNI=Rev
AT=Acts
ATTI DEGLI APOSTOLI=Acts
BA=Bar
BAR=Bar
C=Col
CAN=Song
CL=Col
COL=Col
COLOSSESI=Col
D=Deut
DAN=Dan
DANIELE=Dan
DEU=Deut
DEUT=Deut
DEUTERONOMIO=Deut
E=Eph
EB=Heb
EBR=Heb
EBREI=Heb
ECC=Eccl
ECCLE=Eccl
ECCLESIASTE=Eccl
EF=Eph
EFESINI=Eph
ES=Exod
ESD=Ezra
ESDRA=Ezra
ESO=Exod
ESODO=Exod
EST=Esth
ESTER=Esth
EZ=Ezek
EZE=Ezek
EZECHIELE=Ezek
FIL=Phil
FILEM=Phlm
FILEMONE=Phlm
FILIPPESI=Phil
FL=Phil
FM=Phlm
G=Gen
GAL=Gal
GALATI=Gal
GBB=Job
GC=Jas
GD=Jude
GDC=Judg
GEN=Gen
GENESI=Gen
GER=Jer
GEREMIA=Jer
GIAC=Jas
GIACOMO=Jas
GIO=Josh
GIOB=Job
GIOBBE=Job
GIOELE=Joel
GIONA=Jonah
GIOS=Josh
GIOSU?=Josh
GIOVANNI=John
GIUD=Judg
GIUDA=Jude
GIUDICI=Judg
GDT=Jdt
GL=Gal
GLE=Joel
GNA=Jonah
GV=John
HAB=Hab
HABACUC=Hab
I C=1Cor
I COR=1Cor
I CORINZI=1Cor
I CR=1Cor
I CRO=1Chr
I CRON=1Chr
I CRONACHE=1Chr
I GIOVANNI=1John
I GV=1John
I PIETRO=1Pet
I PT=1Pet
I RE=1Kgs
I SAM=1Sam
I SAMUEL=1Sam
I TESS=1Thess
I TESSALONICESI=1Thess
I TIM=1Tim
I TIMOTEO=1Tim
I TM=1Tim
I TS=1Thess
IC=1Cor
ICOR=1Cor
ICORINZI=1Cor
ICR=1Cor
ICRO=1Chr
ICRON=1Chr
ICRONACHE=1Chr
IGIOVANNI=1John
IGV=1John
II C=2Cor
II COR=2Cor
II CORINZI=2Cor
II CR=2Cor
II CRO=2Chr
II CRON=2Chr
II CRONACHE=2Chr
II GIOVANNI=2John
II GV=2John
II PIETRO=2Pet
II PT=2Pet
II RE=2Kgs
II SAM=2Sam
II SAMUELE=2Sam
II TESS=2Thess
II TESSALONICESI=2Thess
II TIM=2Tim
II TIMOTEO=2Tim
II TM=2Tim
II TS=2Thess
IIC=2Cor
IICOR=2Cor
IICORINZI=2Cor
IICR=2Cor
IICRO=2Chr
IICRON=2Chr
IICRONACHE=2Chr
IIGIOVANNI=2John
IIGV=2John
III GIOVANNI=3John
III GV=3John
IIIGIOVANNI=3John
IIIGV=3John
IIPIETRO=2Pet
IIPT=2Pet
IIRE=2Kgs
IISAM=2Sam
IISAMUELE=2Sam
IITESS=2Thess
IITESSALONICESI=2Thess
IITIM=2Tim
IITIMOTEO=2Tim
IITM=2Tim
IITS=2Thess
IPIETRO=1Pet
IPT=1Pet
IRE=1Kgs
IS=Isa
ISA=Isa
ISAIA=Isa
ISAM=1Sam
ISAMUELE=1Sam
ITESS=1Thess
ITESSALONICESI=1Thess
ITIM=1Tim
ITIMOTEO=1Tim
ITM=1Tim
ITS=1Thess
L=Luke
LC=Luke
LAM=Lam
LAMENTATIONS=Lam
LEV=Lev
LEVITICO=Lev
LUCA=Luke
MA=Matt
MAL=Mal
MALACHIA=Mal
MARCO=Mark
MATTEO=Matt
MC=Mark
MI=Mic
MIC=Mic
MICHEA=Mic
MT=Matt
N=Num
NA=Nah
NAH=Nah
NAHUM=Nah
NEEM=Neh
NEH=Neh
NEHEMIA=Neh
NU=Num
NUM=Num
NUMERI=Num
NM=Num
OS=Hos
OSE=Hos
OSEA=Hos
PRO=Prov
PROV=Prov
PROVERBI=Prov
QO=Eccl
RM=Rom
ROM=Rom
ROMANI=Rom
RUT=Ruth
SAL=Ps
SALMI=Ps
SLM=Ps
SAP=Wis
SA=Wis
SI=Sir
SIR=Sir
SIRA=Sir
SOF=Zeph
SOFONIA=Zeph
TIT=Titus
TITO=Titus
TT=Titus
TOB=Tob
ZAC=Zech
ZACCARIA=Zech

From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 15 13:47:07 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:47:07 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] It locale problem with Judith
In-Reply-To: <9377e877-a303-45ac-eb1d-da419c6e9d15@gmail.com>
References: <9377e877-a303-45ac-eb1d-da419c6e9d15@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49b8f2d3-9ed8-b9bd-9736-ab25016d8833@gmail.com>

Ok auto-answer, sorry, I wrote Gdt where Jdt was needed... Peter please
take the new conf file.

Il 15/04/2019 22:35, Cyrille ha scritto:
> Hello,
> I have a problem for what I can't found a solution. Maybe you can help
> me. I was testing again the it-utf8.conf with xiphos. And when I jump
> till Judith, it refuse to go in the book. If I comment the line
> Judith=Giuditta in the file it is ok. And if I wrote Judith=Judith, it
> works too! With the French it is also OK.
> Any idea? Thanks.

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# File creation: 2019-03-30
# Italian translation for Sword
# Provided by Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com>

[Meta]
Name=it
Description=Italiano (Unicode)
Encoding=UTF-8

[Text]
Genesis=Genesi
Exodus=Esodo
Leviticus=Levitico
Numbers=Numeri
Deuteronomy=Deuteronomio
Joshua=Giosu?
Judges=Giudici
Ruth=Rut
I Samuel=1 Samuele
II Samuel=2 Samuele
I Kings=1 Re
II Kings=2 Re
I Chronicles=1 Cronache
II Chronicles=2 Cronache
Ezra=Esdra
Nehemiah=Nehemia
Esther=Ester
Job=Giobbe
Psalms=Salmi
Proverbs=Proverbi
Ecclesiastes=Qoelet
Song of Solomon=Cantico dei Cantici
Isaiah=Isaia
Jeremiah=Geremia
Lamentations=Lamentazioni
Ezekiel=Ezechiele
Daniel=Daniele
Hosea=Osea
Joel=Gioele
Amos=Amos
Obadiah=Abdia
Jonah=Giona
Micah=Michea
Nahum=Naum
Habakkuk=Abacuc
Zephaniah=Sofonia
Haggai=Aggeo
Zechariah=Zaccaria
Malachi=Malachia
Matthew=Matteo
Mark=Marco
Luke=Luca
John=Giovanni
Acts=Atti degli Apostoli
Romans=Romani
I Corinthians=1 Corinzi
II Corinthians=2 Corinzi
Galatians=Galati
Ephesians=Efesini
Philippians=Filippesi
Colossians=Colossesi
I Thessalonians=1 Tessalonicesi
II Thessalonians=2 Tessalonicesi
I Timothy=1 Timoteo
II Timothy=2 Timoteo
Titus=Tito
Philemon=Filemone
Hebrews=Ebrei
James=Giacomo
I Peter=1 Pietro
II Peter=2 Pietro
I John=1 Giovanni
II John=2 Giovanni
III John=3 Giovanni
Jude=Giuda
Revelation of John=Apocalisse di Giovanni

# Apocrypha/Deuterocanon* (22)
# Tobit
Tobit=Tobia
# Judith
Judith=Giuditta
# Esther (Greek)
#Esther (Greek)=Ester greco
# Additions to Esther
Additions to Esther=Addizioni a Ester
# Wisdom
Wisdom=Sapienza
# Sirach (Prologue)
Sirach (Prologue)=Prologo del Siracide
# Sirach
Sirach=Siracide
# Baruch
Baruch=Baruc
# Epistle of Jeremiah
Epistle of Jeremiah=Lettera di Geremia
# Daniel (Greek)
Daniel (Greek)=Daniele greco
# Additions to Daniel
Additions to Daniel=Addizioni a Daniele
# Prayer of Azariah
Prayer of Azariah=Preghiera di Azaria
# Susanna
Susanna=Susanna
# Bel and the Dragon
Bel and the Dragon=Bel e il drago
# I Maccabees
I Maccabees=1 Maccabei
# II Maccabees
II Maccabees=2 Maccabei
# III Maccabees
III Maccabees=3 Maccabei
# IV Maccabees
IV Maccabees=4 Maccabei
# Prayer of Manasses
Prayer of Manasses=Preghiera di Manasse
# I Esdras
I Esdras=1 Esdra
# II Esdras
II Esdras=2 Esdra
# Additional Psalm
Additional Psalm=Salmo 151

# Rahlfs' LXX* (2)
# Odes
Odes=Odi di Salomone
# Psalms of Solomon
Psalms of Solomon=Salmi di Salomone

[Book Abbrevs]

GENESI=Gen
ESODO=Exod
LEVITICO=Lev
NUMERI=Num
DEUTERONOMIO=Deut
GIOSU?=Josh
GIUDICI=Judg
RUT=Ruth

1. SAMUELE=1Sam
1 SAMUELE=1Sam
1SAMUELE=1Sam

2. SAMUELE=2Sam
2 SAMUELE=2Sam
2SAMUELE=2Sam

1. RE=1Kgs
1 RE=1Kgs
1RE=1Kgs

2. RE=2Kgs
2 RE=2Kgs
2RE=2Kgs

1. CRONACHE=1Chr
1 CRONACHE=1Chr
1CRONACHE=1Chr

2. CRONACHE=2Chr
2 CRONACHE=2Chr
2CRONACHE=2Chr

ESDRA=Ezra
NEHEMIA=Neh
ESTER=Esth
GIOBBE=Job
SALMI=Ps
PROVERBI=Prov
#ECCLESIASTE=Eccl
QOELET=Eccl
CANTICO DEI CANTICI=Song
ISAIA=Isa
GEREMIA=Jer
LAMENTAZIONI=Lam
EZECHIELE=Ezek
DANIELE=Dan
OSEA=Hos
GIOELE=Joel
AMOS=Amos
ABDIA=Obad
GIONA=Jonah
MICHEA=Mic
NAUM=Nah
ABACUC=Hab
SOFONIA=Zeph
AGGEO=Hag
ZACCARIA=Zech
MALACHIA=Mal
MATTEO=Matt
MARCO=Mark
LUCA=Luke
GIOVANNI=John
ATTI=Acts
ROMANI=Rom
1 CORINZI=1Cor
1. CORINZI=1Cor

2 CORINZI=2Cor
2. CORINZI=2Cor
GALATI=Gal
EFESINI=Eph
FILIPPESI=Phil
COLOSSESI=Col

1. TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1 TESSALONICESI=1Thess
1TESSALONICESI=1Thess

2. TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2 TESSALONICESI=2Thess
2TESSALONICESI=2Thess

1. TIMOTEO=1Tim
1 TIMOTEO=1Tim
1TIMOTEO=1Tim

2. TIMOTEO=2Tim
2 TIMOTEO=2Tim
2TIMOTEO=2Tim

TITO=Titus
FILEMONE=Phlm
EBREI=Heb
GIACOMO=Jas

1. PIETRO=1Pet
1 PIETRO=1Pet
1PIETRO=1Pet

2. PIETRO=2Pet
2 PIETRO=2Pet
2PIETRO=2Pet

1. GIOVANNI=1John
1 GIOVANNI=1John
1GIOVANNI=1John

2. GIOVANNI=2John
2 GIOVANNI=2John
2GIOVANNI=2John

3. GIOVANNI=3John
3 GIOVANNI=3John
3GIOVANNI=3John

GIUDA=Jude
APOCALISSE=Rev

TOBIA=Tob
GIUDITTA=Jdt
SAPIENZA=Wis
PROLOGO DEL SIRACIDE=SirP
SIRACIDE=Sir
BARUC=Bar
DANIELE GRECO=DanGr
SUSANNA=Sus
BEL E IL DRAGO=Bel
1 MACCABEI=1Macc
2 MACCABEI=2Macc
3 MACCABEI=3Macc
4 MACCABEI=4Macc
PREGHIERA DI MANASSE=PrMan
1 ESDRA=1Esd
2 ESDRA=2Esd
SALMO 151=AddPs
GIOSU? (ALEXANDRINUS)=JoshA
GIUDICI (VATICANUS)=JudgB
TOBIA (SINAITICUS)=TobS
SUSANNA (TH?ODOTION)=SusTh
DANIELE (TH?ODOTION)=DanTh
BEL E IL DRAGO (TH?ODOTION)=BelTh
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 05:47:17 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:47:17 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
Message-ID: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>

Hello,
I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
gitlab one?



From refdoc at gmx.net  Tue Apr 16 05:50:16 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:50:16 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <trinity-2c7f54a1-7c3d-4b44-becf-62053dac17fb-1555419016353@3c-app-gmx-bs80>

The wiki has an article on that.

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. April 2019 um 13:47 Uhr
> Von: "Cyrille" <lafricain79 at gmail.com>
> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Betreff: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
>
> Hello,
> I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
> repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
> gitlab one?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>


From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Tue Apr 16 05:53:33 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:53:33 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u78vpEdGWSx9-0eQHKuTWjEo6aIkfe6V1LwoaYQSgKK0KCKkje_HB7rDr5mporZJE09e3Rq2Ng7BADIztD8WLXZjT97GEUQt31I4BgtQc-o=@protonmail.com>

It would be grand if the SWORD module manager could use further protocols such as WebDAV.

Then anyone with a cloud storage account on (e.g.) Box or Dropbox could easily host a repository.

David

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 13:47, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
> repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
> gitlab one?
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 05:53:36 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Fr Cyrille)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:53:36 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <trinity-2c7f54a1-7c3d-4b44-becf-62053dac17fb-1555419016353@3c-app-gmx-bs80>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
	<trinity-2c7f54a1-7c3d-4b44-becf-62053dac17fb-1555419016353@3c-app-gmx-bs80>
Message-ID: <7DF1D167-E83C-407A-BBF8-CB6796C198B7@gmail.com>

  I don't found it I will have a look much better
-- 
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 05:58:14 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:58:14 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <u78vpEdGWSx9-0eQHKuTWjEo6aIkfe6V1LwoaYQSgKK0KCKkje_HB7rDr5mporZJE09e3Rq2Ng7BADIztD8WLXZjT97GEUQt31I4BgtQc-o=@protonmail.com>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
	<u78vpEdGWSx9-0eQHKuTWjEo6aIkfe6V1LwoaYQSgKK0KCKkje_HB7rDr5mporZJE09e3Rq2Ng7BADIztD8WLXZjT97GEUQt31I4BgtQc-o=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf690011-6f4d-375c-2c4c-411357c36359@gmail.com>

I found, it really me who don't look well... Thank and to David ? Good idea.

Il 16/04/2019 14:53, David Haslam ha scritto:
> It would be grand if the SWORD module manager could use further
> protocols such as WebDAV.?
>
> Then anyone with a cloud storage account on (e.g.) Box or Dropbox
> could easily host a repository.?
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 13:47, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com
> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
>> repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
>> gitlab one?
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
>
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From contact at tklein.info  Tue Apr 16 23:12:30 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:12:30 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
	different names
Message-ID: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>

Hi,

I need some advice from you Linux experts.

Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it, because the 
Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu 18.04) 
contains a differently named *.so file than on my system (Default Sword 
package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).

What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the same binary? Is 
there a way to do that?

I was thinking about creating a symlink within my application directory 
structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some dynamic system 
inspection code.

Best regards,
Tobias



From amadio.pierre at gmail.com  Tue Apr 16 23:40:28 2019
From: amadio.pierre at gmail.com (pierre amadio)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:40:28 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
 different names
In-Reply-To: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
Message-ID: <CAOTAUqKrc_ZRfipp6ez88C873NsRpWSe+=o6-szVGXyG6foqOw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello.

Chances are making a symlink of the 11v5 library to a sword1.8.so file
will fail as the prototype of the function may not be the same between
the 2 versions (may be some new function were added as well).

You can try to play with :

1) LD_PRELOAD to tell the linker to override a default .so with
something you choose instead.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/426230/what-is-the-ld-preload-trick#426260

2) LD_LIBRARY_PATH to tell the linker where to look for .so.

On my debian/ubuntu system, i keep the original sword installed for
prepackaged apps, and I install the latest one "in a corner" for home
made stuff.

I took some notes on how to install a custom sword on debian/ubuntu there:
https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/notes.txt

Line 28 to 33 cover the compilation of sword in /usr/local/sword
Line 52 to 56 cover environnment variable needed to use this library
at runtime (LD_LIBRARY_PATH,  PATH)  and to compile other stuff
against it.


On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 08:13, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need some advice from you Linux experts.
>
> Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it, because the
> Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu 18.04)
> contains a differently named *.so file than on my system (Default Sword
> package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).
>
> What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the same binary? Is
> there a way to do that?
>
> I was thinking about creating a symlink within my application directory
> structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some dynamic system
> inspection code.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page


From refdoc at gmx.net  Wed Apr 17 00:00:19 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (refdoc at gmx.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:00:19 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with
	potentially	different names
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Wed Apr 17 02:58:39 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:58:39 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <bf690011-6f4d-375c-2c4c-411357c36359@gmail.com>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
	<u78vpEdGWSx9-0eQHKuTWjEo6aIkfe6V1LwoaYQSgKK0KCKkje_HB7rDr5mporZJE09e3Rq2Ng7BADIztD8WLXZjT97GEUQt31I4BgtQc-o=@protonmail.com>
	<bf690011-6f4d-375c-2c4c-411357c36359@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <331e1d96-29f1-14c2-7f14-f46abc121263@crosswire.org>

Dear Fr. Cyrille,

I you do decide to make a new remote SWORD install repository, please
let us know.? We have a registry of known repositories our engine uses
to discover where look for offering modules to users for install.? We
would love to support your work and make it visible to our users.

Troy


On 4/16/19 5:58 AM, Cyrille wrote:
> I found, it really me who don't look well... Thank and to David ? Good
> idea.
>
> Il 16/04/2019 14:53, David Haslam ha scritto:
>> It would be grand if the SWORD module manager could use further
>> protocols such as WebDAV.?
>>
>> Then anyone with a cloud storage account on (e.g.) Box or Dropbox
>> could easily host a repository.?
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 13:47, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
>>> repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
>>> gitlab one?
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Wed Apr 17 03:04:39 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:04:39 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <331e1d96-29f1-14c2-7f14-f46abc121263@crosswire.org>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 04:00:01 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:00:01 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <331e1d96-29f1-14c2-7f14-f46abc121263@crosswire.org>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
	<u78vpEdGWSx9-0eQHKuTWjEo6aIkfe6V1LwoaYQSgKK0KCKkje_HB7rDr5mporZJE09e3Rq2Ng7BADIztD8WLXZjT97GEUQt31I4BgtQc-o=@protonmail.com>
	<bf690011-6f4d-375c-2c4c-411357c36359@gmail.com>
	<331e1d96-29f1-14c2-7f14-f46abc121263@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <d6c5666e-7671-6d98-6dd3-b737dc66d208@gmail.com>



Il 17/04/2019 11:58, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>
> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>
> I you do decide to make a new remote SWORD install repository, please
> let us know.? We have a registry of known repositories our engine uses
> to discover where look for offering modules to users for install.? We
> would love to support your work and make it visible to our users.
>
Thanks Troy I appreciate! But I'm just testing/learning possibilities.
I'm invited to the Catholic Biblical Federation Congress
<http://cbfcongress2019.org/> the next week, and I hope to present
diverse tools for the bible use, reading, publication, etc (for that I
worked also to perform the Italian translation). And about Free
software/ Free copyright. I don't know if they will be open to it, I
will see but the friend who invited me think that... It will be a
workshop on new technologies and Bible.
I had only the idea to present the possibility to have an own repository.

But for my new modules and new corrections of modules, I think it's
better if all can be distributed by the crosswire repository. The true
problem is time... If someone can help Peter to check all my
propositions it can be very help full. I propose at least 6 modules not
yet published (see gitlab to see what I did). I stopped to work on old
issues for this reason. When the currents patch will be published i'll
continue to work on other modules. And I have also a complet LXX and
Vulgate text, I found 5 others sources text linked to some issues in the
bug tracker.

I have a really opportunity this year to work on it. After that it will
not be possible as now...

Good walk to Eastern!

> Troy
>
>
> On 4/16/19 5:58 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>> I found, it really me who don't look well... Thank and to David ?
>> Good idea.
>>
>> Il 16/04/2019 14:53, David Haslam ha scritto:
>>> It would be grand if the SWORD module manager could use further
>>> protocols such as WebDAV.?
>>>
>>> Then anyone with a cloud storage account on (e.g.) Box or Dropbox
>>> could easily host a repository.?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 13:47, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I would like to know where found info for the creation of a new
>>>> repository. Is it possible to use an htpps repositiry? As example a
>>>> gitlab one?
>>>>
>>>>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Wed Apr 17 04:17:44 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:17:44 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] How to add/create new repository
In-Reply-To: <d6c5666e-7671-6d98-6dd3-b737dc66d208@gmail.com>
References: <2f7b5047-d08b-280f-9a11-64cb998dff7d@gmail.com>
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From contact at tklein.info  Wed Apr 17 13:26:12 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:26:12 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
 different names
In-Reply-To: <-i9n8u0c16zscktxdby-ha2r7w-e0dxbh-dkt8z9re9o6q-33mz9r5yebdj-kz8gfoimdt4i6q4ls8qqh9gfp850gw-svpigs-p4wqm6-4ghhmz-hkqmk-e5hcx5oiatz38agnqw-s0gb6a-2f8q4y-wxneym.1555484419084@email.android.com>
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
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Message-ID: <66a24220-bcbe-80b2-b331-361cc041d1e7@tklein.info>

Mmmm... I guess you're right about that. Maybe a step before going 
"into" the repositories is to offer debian packages for regular download.

Best regards,
Tobias

On 17.04.19 09:00, refdoc at gmx.net wrote:
> I am not sure what you try to achieve. At the moment people who use 
> your app are fellow developers and others like me who compile gladly 
> ourselves. If you want ordinary users get it into the repos. Then the 
> lib linkage problem goes away too.
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird 
> autocorrects.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with 
> potentially different names
> From: Tobias Klein
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I need some advice from you Linux experts.
>
>     Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it, because the
>     Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu 18.04)
>     contains a differently named *.so file than on my system (Default
>     Sword
>     package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).
>
>     What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the same
>     binary? Is
>     there a way to do that?
>
>     I was thinking about creating a symlink within my application
>     directory
>     structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some dynamic
>     system
>     inspection code.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Tobias
>
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Wed Apr 17 13:39:21 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:39:21 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] xulsword
Message-ID: <eaTYzXamJEx4rXHaMfcBqT87w3FymiXJB3pPCRxJZ0bIAhm3UrmvZ3KJelj2bQcYzcyxuf1SDukRgv4KGKFBfz8f6Yn212XmCQ87sbT5ae8=@protonmail.com>

Just a reminder that xulsword is still very much an actively developed front-end.
https://github.com/JohnAustinDev/xulsword

The main use is as the Holy Bible app for Central Asian languages hosted by IBT.

It supports Bible modules with linked Dictionary.

It?s a while since I last used it myself on my Windows 7 x64 PC but there was a time when it was in regular use for displaying modules in my Sword path as well as those installed from IBT.

It?s heartening that IBT is one major Bible agency which uses a SWORD based program as their main offering.

David

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From greg.hellings at gmail.com  Wed Apr 17 14:39:51 2019
From: greg.hellings at gmail.com (Greg Hellings)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:39:51 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
 different names
In-Reply-To: <66a24220-bcbe-80b2-b331-361cc041d1e7@tklein.info>
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
	<-i9n8u0c16zscktxdby-ha2r7w-e0dxbh-dkt8z9re9o6q-33mz9r5yebdj-kz8gfoimdt4i6q4ls8qqh9gfp850gw-svpigs-p4wqm6-4ghhmz-hkqmk-e5hcx5oiatz38agnqw-s0gb6a-2f8q4y-wxneym.1555484419084@email.android.com>
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Tobias,

What form is your code in? Where does the repo live? Is it a C/C++ app? A
Python app?

--Greg

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:27 PM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Mmmm... I guess you're right about that. Maybe a step before going "into"
> the repositories is to offer debian packages for regular download.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
> On 17.04.19 09:00, refdoc at gmx.net wrote:
>
> I am not sure what you try to achieve. At the moment people who use your
> app are fellow developers and others like me who compile gladly ourselves.
> If you want ordinary users get it into the repos. Then the lib linkage
> problem goes away too.
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
> autocorrects.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
> different names
> From: Tobias Klein
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I need some advice from you Linux experts.
>
> Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it, because the
> Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu 18.04)
> contains a differently named *.so file than on my system (Default Sword
> package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).
>
> What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the same binary? Is
> there a way to do that?
>
> I was thinking about creating a symlink within my application directory
> structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some dynamic system
> inspection code.
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 00:31:47 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:31:47 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] The Septuagint
In-Reply-To: <2j_fuf2-1JvloTRHdwS9T1IPkA5yGvZoMQec_5l8YPmS9Fem32uZeLEvUHjZ8YQondU1sGFH1i0-4dRbVRUpf4Bz_ktDypbvjzGWu4sRzHY=@protonmail.com>
References: <2j_fuf2-1JvloTRHdwS9T1IPkA5yGvZoMQec_5l8YPmS9Fem32uZeLEvUHjZ8YQondU1sGFH1i0-4dRbVRUpf4Bz_ktDypbvjzGWu4sRzHY=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <9508943b-f1b7-9850-e98b-d2b6a124df02@gmail.com>



Il 14/04/2019 18:49, David Haslam ha scritto:
> FYI. A lengthy article about the LXX.?
>
> https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2019/03/20/the-septuagint-a-bible-translation-that-changed-the-world/
>
Thanks very interesting article, this bible is still the one use by our
orthodoxe brothers... I have in my folder a complete LXX, with greek
accent and morph, and an other without morph. In the current modules
(KJV with strong) the deut?ro and apocryphe are missing.
I don't know if it is possible to merge an existant module with an other
source? Or maybe propose two different modules, one with strong number
without deut and apo, and a complet version without Strong's number?
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
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From refdoc at crosswire.org  Thu Apr 18 01:11:42 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 01:11:42 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
Message-ID: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
This is is an updated version of CPDV.
Many thanks to update for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 01:47:39 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:47:39 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>

I download manually because xiphos doens't see it. Maybe you need to add
this entry in the conf:
Versification=Vulg

Il 18/04/2019 10:11, refdoc at crosswire.org ha scritto:
> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
> Many thanks to update for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
> The Module Team
>
> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Thu Apr 18 03:53:32 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:53:32 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
	<48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <trinity-dbf6d65d-f22d-4ecb-a255-a2336193e555-1555584812366@3c-app-gmx-bs07>

I downloaded it in  Bishop (which uses the same module manager as Xiphos and saw it on the site ready for jsword frontends as zip.

Peter

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 um 09:47 Uhr
> Von: "Cyrille" <lafricain79 at gmail.com>
> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>, refdoc at crosswire.org
> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
>
> I download manually because xiphos doens't see it. Maybe you need to add
> this entry in the conf:
> Versification=Vulg
>
> Il 18/04/2019 10:11, refdoc at crosswire.org ha scritto:
> > Dear All,
> > This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
> > This is is an updated version of CPDV.
> > Many thanks to update for the hard work.
> >
> > yours
> >
> > The Module Team
> >
> > P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
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From karl at kleinpaste.org  Thu Apr 18 05:05:10 2019
From: karl at kleinpaste.org (Karl Kleinpaste)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:05:10 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <trinity-dbf6d65d-f22d-4ecb-a255-a2336193e555-1555584812366@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
	<48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>

On 4/18/19 6:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
> uses the same module manager as Xiphos
Crosswire's mods.d.tar.gz was not regenerated after the update. That's 
why Xiphos doesn't see it after refresh.

$ pwd
/home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/mods.d
$ ls -l cpdv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16? 2014 cpdv.conf
$ ls -lc cpdv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Apr 18 07:59 cpdv.conf
$ grep ^Version cpdv.conf
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 05:24:33 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:24:33 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
	<48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
	<trinity-dbf6d65d-f22d-4ecb-a255-a2336193e555-1555584812366@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
	<cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
Message-ID: <b5a289de-947c-4261-8e3e-e3e656dd1dc6@gmail.com>



Il 18/04/2019 14:05, Karl Kleinpaste ha scritto:
> On 4/18/19 6:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>> uses the same module manager as Xiphos
> Crosswire's mods.d.tar.gz was not regenerated after the update. That's
> why Xiphos doesn't see it after refresh.
>
> $ pwd
> /home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/mods.d
> $ ls -l cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16? 2014 cpdv.conf
> $ ls -lc cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Apr 18 07:59 cpdv.conf
> $ grep ^Version cpdv.conf
> Version=1.0.1
>
This is then the same problem with itNomiBibbia.
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Thu Apr 18 05:29:20 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:29:20 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 05:38:33 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:38:33 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <trinity-96192036-b4ff-4080-8c10-14c6c2578634-1555590560477@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
	<48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
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	<cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
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Il 18/04/2019 14:29, Peter Von Kaehne ha scritto:
> The module is visible in crosswire.org. The module is not visible in
> ftp.crosswire.org.
>
Yes, I added a repo without the ftp, only crosswire.org and I can see
both CPDV and ItNomibbia.
> The module is uploaded into host.crosswire.org, which is where I am
> told I should upload things until all is again amalgamated.
>
> TBH I am fed up. The proliferation of urls leading to different
> instantations of our server, old and new is a bit of a problem.
>
> Peter
> ?
> *Gesendet:*?Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 um 13:05 Uhr
> *Von:*?"Karl Kleinpaste" <karl at kleinpaste.org>
> *An:*?"SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> *Betreff:*?Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
> On 4/18/19 6:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>
>     uses the same module manager as Xiphos
>
> Crosswire's mods.d.tar.gz was not regenerated after the update. That's
> why Xiphos doesn't see it after refresh.
>
> $ pwd
> /home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/mods.d
> $ ls -l cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16? 2014 cpdv.conf
> $ ls -lc cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Apr 18 07:59 cpdv.conf
> $ grep ^Version cpdv.conf
> Version=1.0.1
>
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 09:39:18 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:39:18 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <a6422b99-c0e7-075e-933c-49ffa409674c@gmail.com>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
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	<trinity-dbf6d65d-f22d-4ecb-a255-a2336193e555-1555584812366@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
	<cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
	<trinity-96192036-b4ff-4080-8c10-14c6c2578634-1555590560477@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
	<a6422b99-c0e7-075e-933c-49ffa409674c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ9hia9ZSwQWgif47L=149U4MO_oN9EECisxt02gftcA3ChGfg@mail.gmail.com>

Bibletime didn't see the update, so I went to ftp.crosswire.org and
downloaded it manually, and it is the new edition. I did this several hours
ago, before your email.

But now when I do the same thing (ftp.crosswire.org), it is the older
module (2015 timestamp on the conf file.)

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:40 AM Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il 18/04/2019 14:29, Peter Von Kaehne ha scritto:
>
> The module is visible in crosswire.org. The module is not visible in
> ftp.crosswire.org.
>
> Yes, I added a repo without the ftp, only crosswire.org and I can see
> both CPDV and ItNomibbia.
>
> The module is uploaded into host.crosswire.org, which is where I am told
> I should upload things until all is again amalgamated.
>
> TBH I am fed up. The proliferation of urls leading to different
> instantations of our server, old and new is a bit of a problem.
>
> Peter
>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 um 13:05 Uhr
> *Von:* "Karl Kleinpaste" <karl at kleinpaste.org> <karl at kleinpaste.org>
> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
> On 4/18/19 6:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>
> uses the same module manager as Xiphos
>
> Crosswire's mods.d.tar.gz was not regenerated after the update. That's why
> Xiphos doesn't see it after refresh.
>
> $ pwd
> /home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/mods.d
> $ ls -l cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16  2014 cpdv.conf
> $ ls -lc cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Apr 18 07:59 cpdv.conf
> $ grep ^Version cpdv.conf
> Version=1.0.1
>
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From cmahte at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 09:42:08 2019
From: cmahte at gmail.com (Michael H)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:42:08 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9hia9ZSwQWgif47L=149U4MO_oN9EECisxt02gftcA3ChGfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1hH290-0007UN-6Y@crosswire.org>
	<48a0ca40-0507-c36c-925d-5924c3708596@gmail.com>
	<trinity-dbf6d65d-f22d-4ecb-a255-a2336193e555-1555584812366@3c-app-gmx-bs07>
	<cf2e78b8-4470-d637-6a4c-ac8acf2a005a@kleinpaste.org>
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	<a6422b99-c0e7-075e-933c-49ffa409674c@gmail.com>
	<CAJ9hia9ZSwQWgif47L=149U4MO_oN9EECisxt02gftcA3ChGfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Correction: Earlier I went to ftp://crosswire.org to get the updated
version.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bibletime didn't see the update, so I went to ftp.crosswire.org and
> downloaded it manually, and it is the new edition. I did this several hours
> ago, before your email.
>
> But now when I do the same thing (ftp.crosswire.org), it is the older
> module (2015 timestamp on the conf file.)
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 7:40 AM Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Il 18/04/2019 14:29, Peter Von Kaehne ha scritto:
>>
>> The module is visible in crosswire.org. The module is not visible in
>> ftp.crosswire.org.
>>
>> Yes, I added a repo without the ftp, only crosswire.org and I can see
>> both CPDV and ItNomibbia.
>>
>> The module is uploaded into host.crosswire.org, which is where I am told
>> I should upload things until all is again amalgamated.
>>
>> TBH I am fed up. The proliferation of urls leading to different
>> instantations of our server, old and new is a bit of a problem.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 um 13:05 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Karl Kleinpaste" <karl at kleinpaste.org> <karl at kleinpaste.org>
>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
>> On 4/18/19 6:53 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>>
>> uses the same module manager as Xiphos
>>
>> Crosswire's mods.d.tar.gz was not regenerated after the update. That's
>> why Xiphos doesn't see it after refresh.
>>
>> $ pwd
>> /home/karl/.sword/InstallMgr/20081216195754/mods.d
>> $ ls -l cpdv.conf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16  2014 cpdv.conf
>> $ ls -lc cpdv.conf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Apr 18 07:59 cpdv.conf
>> $ grep ^Version cpdv.conf
>> Version=1.0.1
>>
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>> unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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From refdoc at crosswire.org  Thu Apr 18 23:52:28 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:52:28 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
Message-ID: <E1hHNNs-0005YN-8U@crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
This is is an updated version of CPDV.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From contact at tklein.info  Fri Apr 19 01:40:20 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:40:20 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
 different names
In-Reply-To: <CAHxvOVKAZDUeferqANnuoXLpP8vpVdfmOHyzOtUG615nofT42A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
	<-i9n8u0c16zscktxdby-ha2r7w-e0dxbh-dkt8z9re9o6q-33mz9r5yebdj-kz8gfoimdt4i6q4ls8qqh9gfp850gw-svpigs-p4wqm6-4ghhmz-hkqmk-e5hcx5oiatz38agnqw-s0gb6a-2f8q4y-wxneym.1555484419084@email.android.com>
	<66a24220-bcbe-80b2-b331-361cc041d1e7@tklein.info>
	<CAHxvOVKAZDUeferqANnuoXLpP8vpVdfmOHyzOtUG615nofT42A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44116a47-1a76-4cd9-5c5f-0e39b9967806@tklein.info>

Hi Greg,

The Sword binding is C++ and the main application is Javascript 
(Electron / Node-JS).

Main application:
https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project

Sword interface:
https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-sword-interface


Besides Github the Sword interface is also published on npmjs.com, which 
means it can be easily installed with npm (node package manager).

https://www.npmjs.com/package/ezra-sword-interface

The main application depends on the most recently published version of 
the Sword interface and the dependency is handled by npm.
When installing the dependencies of Ezra Project (see step 2 below) the 
correct version of the Sword interface is automatically installed in the 
project directory (from npmjs.com).

To get Ezra Project and its Sword interface setup/compiled, the 
following steps must be performed (on Debian/Ubuntu):

0) Install tool/library dependencies: nodejs, build-essential, 
libsword-dev, libsqlite3-0
1) Clone Ezra Project (https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project.git)
2) Install dependencies in the Ezra Project directory: Run "npm install" 
in project directory
3) Rebuild C++ dependencies: Run "npm run rebuild-linux" in project 
directory
4) Start ezra project: Run "npm start" in project directory


I should put these instructions on the Wiki pages on Github as well ... 
will do that asap.

Have a blessed Easter celebration! The Lord is risen!

Best regards,
Tobias

On 17.04.19 23:39, Greg Hellings wrote:
> Tobias,
>
> What form is your code in? Where does the repo live? Is it a C/C++ 
> app? A Python app?
>
> --Greg
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:27 PM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info 
> <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>
>     Mmmm... I guess you're right about that. Maybe a step before going
>     "into" the repositories is to offer debian packages for regular
>     download.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Tobias
>
>     On 17.04.19 09:00, refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>     I am not sure what you try to achieve. At the moment people who
>>     use your app are fellow developers and others like me who compile
>>     gladly ourselves. If you want ordinary users get it into the
>>     repos. Then the lib linkage problem goes away too.
>>
>>     Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>>     autocorrects.
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>     Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with
>>     potentially different names
>>     From: Tobias Klein
>>     To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>     CC:
>>
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         I need some advice from you Linux experts.
>>
>>         Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it,
>>         because the
>>         Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu
>>         18.04)
>>         contains a differently named *.so file than on my system
>>         (Default Sword
>>         package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).
>>
>>         What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the same
>>         binary? Is
>>         there a way to do that?
>>
>>         I was thinking about creating a symlink within my application
>>         directory
>>         structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some
>>         dynamic system
>>         inspection code.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>         Tobias
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>         <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>         http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>         Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
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>>     http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From refdoc at crosswire.org  Fri Apr 19 02:06:12 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 05:06:12 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItDizGreco
Message-ID: <20190419090612.9BC3E11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItDizGreco.
This is is an updated version of ItDizGreco.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 19 02:14:07 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:14:07 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItDizGreco
In-Reply-To: <20190419090612.9BC3E11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
References: <20190419090612.9BC3E11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <43e07911-db01-e0a5-49f3-03b5d9d11b11@gmail.com>

Thanks Peter! this time I can see itDizGrec in xiphos but not yet
ItNomiBibbia and CPDV (maybe you are working on).

Il 19/04/2019 11:06, refdoc at crosswire.org ha scritto:
> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItDizGreco.
> This is is an updated version of ItDizGreco.
> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
> The Module Team
>
> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
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From contact at tklein.info  Fri Apr 19 02:37:50 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:37:50 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with potentially
 different names
In-Reply-To: <44116a47-1a76-4cd9-5c5f-0e39b9967806@tklein.info>
References: <c6a8b40f-7679-eda5-947f-707e759c882f@tklein.info>
	<-i9n8u0c16zscktxdby-ha2r7w-e0dxbh-dkt8z9re9o6q-33mz9r5yebdj-kz8gfoimdt4i6q4ls8qqh9gfp850gw-svpigs-p4wqm6-4ghhmz-hkqmk-e5hcx5oiatz38agnqw-s0gb6a-2f8q4y-wxneym.1555484419084@email.android.com>
	<66a24220-bcbe-80b2-b331-361cc041d1e7@tklein.info>
	<CAHxvOVKAZDUeferqANnuoXLpP8vpVdfmOHyzOtUG615nofT42A@mail.gmail.com>
	<44116a47-1a76-4cd9-5c5f-0e39b9967806@tklein.info>
Message-ID: <dde3e37b-7d0a-8df0-40e7-5f5302f4a463@tklein.info>

I've just put build/release instructions into the README as well, after 
getting a corresponding issue/request on Github.

https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project/blob/master/README.md#building-ezra-project

Best regards,
Tobias

On 19.04.19 10:40, Tobias Klein wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> The Sword binding is C++ and the main application is Javascript 
> (Electron / Node-JS).
>
> Main application:
> https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project
>
> Sword interface:
> https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-sword-interface
>
>
> Besides Github the Sword interface is also published on npmjs.com, 
> which means it can be easily installed with npm (node package manager).
>
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/ezra-sword-interface
>
> The main application depends on the most recently published version of 
> the Sword interface and the dependency is handled by npm.
> When installing the dependencies of Ezra Project (see step 2 below) 
> the correct version of the Sword interface is automatically installed 
> in the project directory (from npmjs.com).
>
> To get Ezra Project and its Sword interface setup/compiled, the 
> following steps must be performed (on Debian/Ubuntu):
>
> 0) Install tool/library dependencies: nodejs, build-essential, 
> libsword-dev, libsqlite3-0
> 1) Clone Ezra Project (https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project.git)
> 2) Install dependencies in the Ezra Project directory: Run "npm 
> install" in project directory
> 3) Rebuild C++ dependencies: Run "npm run rebuild-linux" in project 
> directory
> 4) Start ezra project: Run "npm start" in project directory
>
>
> I should put these instructions on the Wiki pages on Github as well 
> ... will do that asap.
>
> Have a blessed Easter celebration! The Lord is risen!
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> On 17.04.19 23:39, Greg Hellings wrote:
>> Tobias,
>>
>> What form is your code in? Where does the repo live? Is it a C/C++ 
>> app? A Python app?
>>
>> --Greg
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:27 PM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info 
>> <mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:
>>
>>     Mmmm... I guess you're right about that. Maybe a step before
>>     going "into" the repositories is to offer debian packages for
>>     regular download.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Tobias
>>
>>     On 17.04.19 09:00, refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>     I am not sure what you try to achieve. At the moment people who
>>>     use your app are fellow developers and others like me who
>>>     compile gladly ourselves. If you want ordinary users get it into
>>>     the repos. Then the lib linkage problem goes away too.
>>>
>>>     Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>>>     autocorrects.
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>>     Subject: [sword-devel] Linux: Linking to Sword library with
>>>     potentially different names
>>>     From: Tobias Klein
>>>     To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>>     CC:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>         I need some advice from you Linux experts.
>>>
>>>         Cyrille tested Ezra Project on Linux and couldn't run it,
>>>         because the
>>>         Sword package on that system (custom Sword 1.8.1 on Ubuntu
>>>         18.04)
>>>         contains a differently named *.so file than on my system
>>>         (Default Sword
>>>         package from Ubuntu 18.04 => libsword11v5).
>>>
>>>         What can I do to support multiple *.so variants with the
>>>         same binary? Is
>>>         there a way to do that?
>>>
>>>         I was thinking about creating a symlink within my
>>>         application directory
>>>         structure that can be adjusted at runtime based on some
>>>         dynamic system
>>>         inspection code.
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Tobias
>>>
>>>
>>>         _______________________________________________
>>>         sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>         <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>         http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>         Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
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>>>     http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From refdoc at crosswire.org  Fri Apr 19 06:25:01 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:25:01 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: FreBailly
Message-ID: <20190419132501.EEAA211FFB2@host.crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded FreBailly.
This is is an updated version of FreBailly.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From refdoc at crosswire.org  Fri Apr 19 06:40:22 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:40:22 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
Message-ID: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
This is is an updated version of Anderson.
Many thanks to David for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From refdoc at crosswire.org  Fri Apr 19 06:55:33 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:55:33 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: LvGluck8
Message-ID: <20190419135533.7A60911FFB2@host.crosswire.org>

Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded LvGluck8.
This is is an updated version of LvGluck8.
Many thanks to J?nis for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Apr 19 06:59:30 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:59:30 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
In-Reply-To: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
References: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <Q9F2U1_nTIYDZkRZt-m7x-sij66UkfI7s4nOYCDXDxaFaAyXvvFbC4IOXlwyn8cBzRd0SMdWTxZ5JRZZqDxhY9mU1qjjAbfG1eqNzdXnD4k=@protonmail.com>

Many thanks!

The source text for the Anderson module is on GitHub so if any further textual issues are detected, please feel free to add an issue, etc.

Henry T. Anderson's 1864 "Civil War" New Testament
https://github.com/BeTheLight/ENG-B1-Anderson1864-pd-USFM

David

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 14:40, <refdoc at crosswire.org> wrote:

> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
> The Module Team
>
> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Apr 19 13:08:29 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:08:29 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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From PocketSword, the Anderson module version that I see listed is 1.0

My installed version is 1.1 - which is the version I submitted. (Manually installed)

I?m using the Add FTP Source workaround, but the same version 1.0 is listed under CrossWire without the workaround.

Please explain.

David Haslam

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> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>
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>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 19 13:47:40 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 22:47:40 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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And

Il 19/04/2019 22:08, David Haslam ha scritto:
> From PocketSword, the Anderson module version that I see listed is 1.0
Yes me too. ItNomiBibibbia still not available and update of CPDV not
visible.
>
> My installed version is 1.1 - which is the version I submitted.
> (Manually installed)
>
> I?m using the Add FTP Source workaround, but the same version 1.0 is
> listed under CrossWire without the workaround.?
>
> Please explain.?
>
> David Haslam?
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 14:40, <refdoc at crosswire.org
> <mailto:refdoc at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
>> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
>> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>>
>> yours
>>
>> The Module Team
>>
>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Fri Apr 19 14:44:23 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (refdoc at gmx.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 22:44:23 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Apr 19 14:51:18 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 21:51:18 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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OK - understood.
You tweaked the version down from what was incremented during recent text development.

Anderson 0.1 is still in CrossWire Beta.
It should now be removed.

David

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 22:44, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> There had been no.1.0 before, so this was the initial install. 1.0
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
> From: David Haslam
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>> From PocketSword, the Anderson module version that I see listed is 1.0
>>
>> My installed version is 1.1 - which is the version I submitted. (Manually installed)
>>
>> I?m using the Add FTP Source workaround, but the same version 1.0 is listed under CrossWire without the workaround.
>>
>> Please explain.
>>
>> David Haslam
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 14:40, <refdoc at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
>>> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
>>> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>>>
>>> yours
>>>
>>> The Module Team
>>>
>>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>>>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Fri Apr 19 16:53:37 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (refdoc at gmx.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 00:53:37 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] TEI dictionaries in beta
Message-ID: <y3oljn-z1tmlspux092fdv2ca-hw4yrd6sgr1k-yxg1k75r4ynngj6mlm8f0xp-2vixe2sxvwo24mlocxmctez7-akt1jz9nehpq-8re5kf-171pf7-hippdg-2usira-r7wcld-54q8oupv5y9c6ix6mh.1555718017890@email.android.com>

There are a bunch of TEI dictionaries in beta. Some are marked as "known bad", but others are fine. I am planning to move them in the next few days one by one towards the normal repo.

I will also start deleting "known bad" texts. We do not have the sources so there is little point in keeping them'. 

Peter

Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.

From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Apr 19 19:59:49 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 02:59:49 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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No search index available for PS.

We ought to have enough knowledge to be able to fix this after all this time.

David

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 22:51, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:

> OK - understood.
> You tweaked the version down from what was incremented during recent text development.
>
> Anderson 0.1 is still in CrossWire Beta.
> It should now be removed.
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 22:44, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> There had been no.1.0 before, so this was the initial install. 1.0
>>
>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
>> From: David Haslam
>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>> CC:
>>
>>> From PocketSword, the Anderson module version that I see listed is 1.0
>>>
>>> My installed version is 1.1 - which is the version I submitted. (Manually installed)
>>>
>>> I?m using the Add FTP Source workaround, but the same version 1.0 is listed under CrossWire without the workaround.
>>>
>>> Please explain.
>>>
>>> David Haslam
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 14:40, <refdoc at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
>>>> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
>>>> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>>>>
>>>> yours
>>>>
>>>> The Module Team
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From amadio.pierre at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 01:32:28 2019
From: amadio.pierre at gmail.com (pierre amadio)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 10:32:28 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Python and strong module
Message-ID: <CAOTAUq+_HBCTg6XRYzud25wn0AZF-x=y0fjaN0sy4NPPSV36wA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello.

I fail to look for a Strong's dictionnary Hebrew entry with python
(Red Hat based, sword-python-1.8.1-3.el7.x86_64).

Here is the shortest test case i have:
https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/python/strongtestcase.py

Instead of giving me the entry for 5975 (amad) , it gives the entry
for 8674 (Tattnay)

I have a similar testcase that works as expected in C++ :
https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/strongTest/testStrong/main.cpp

I experience a similar outpout if i set a non existing key (say
"1111111111111111" instead of "05975" in c++ .

Am i doing something wrong (if yes, any idea what ?) in python, or is
this a bug in the python binding ?


From contact at tklein.info  Sat Apr 20 02:59:50 2019
From: contact at tklein.info (Tobias Klein)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 11:59:50 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
In-Reply-To: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
References: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <aced4949-f6bd-dc5a-d5cc-f31f0a94fad6@tklein.info>

It seems like the anderson.conf lacks an /InstallSize/ entry. I don't 
see it when retrieving the file through the Sword API.
This is an inconsistency compared to other existing modules which all 
have that entry.

On GitHub the InstallSize entry is there, so I wonder what happened here ...
https://github.com/BeTheLight/ENG-B1-Anderson1864-pd-USFM/blob/master/Sword/mods.d/anderson.conf

Best regards,
Tobias

On 19.04.19 15:40, refdoc at crosswire.org wrote:
> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
> The Module Team
>
> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 20 03:03:22 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 10:03:22 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
In-Reply-To: <aced4949-f6bd-dc5a-d5cc-f31f0a94fad6@tklein.info>
References: <20190419134022.D765B11FFB2@host.crosswire.org>
	<aced4949-f6bd-dc5a-d5cc-f31f0a94fad6@tklein.info>
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Adding InstallSize is scripted.
Background batch job.

It should appear within 24 hours.

David

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On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 10:59, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> It seems like the anderson.conf lacks an InstallSize entry. I don't see it when retrieving the file through the Sword API.
> This is an inconsistency compared to other existing modules which all have that entry.
>
> On GitHub the InstallSize entry is there, so I wonder what happened here ...
> https://github.com/BeTheLight/ENG-B1-Anderson1864-pd-USFM/blob/master/Sword/mods.d/anderson.conf
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
> On 19.04.19 15:40, refdoc at crosswire.org wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded Anderson.
>> This is is an updated version of Anderson.
>> Many thanks to David for the hard work.
>>
>> yours
>>
>> The Module Team
>>
>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Sat Apr 20 03:58:46 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (refdoc at gmx.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 11:58:46 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: Anderson
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 20 07:59:00 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 07:59:00 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Python and strong module
In-Reply-To: <CAOTAUq+_HBCTg6XRYzud25wn0AZF-x=y0fjaN0sy4NPPSV36wA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOTAUq+_HBCTg6XRYzud25wn0AZF-x=y0fjaN0sy4NPPSV36wA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0DC03C1B-90E1-4EEC-95D6-DE715F9E9BE2@crosswire.org>

Dear Pierre,

In Python, it looks like you are setting your strongs number into a VerseKey. This will give a out of bounds error and will likely return the last entry if you continue to do a look up with it. You probably just want an SWKey instead of VerseKey. This is the most base type of key in SWORD and simply takes a string and doesn't try to parse it or do anything special with it.

Hope this helps,

Troy

On April 20, 2019 1:32:28 AM MST, pierre amadio <amadio.pierre at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I fail to look for a Strong's dictionnary Hebrew entry with python
>(Red Hat based, sword-python-1.8.1-3.el7.x86_64).
>
>Here is the shortest test case i have:
>https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/python/strongtestcase.py
>
>Instead of giving me the entry for 5975 (amad) , it gives the entry
>for 8674 (Tattnay)
>
>I have a similar testcase that works as expected in C++ :
>https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/strongTest/testStrong/main.cpp
>
>I experience a similar outpout if i set a non existing key (say
>"1111111111111111" instead of "05975" in c++ .
>
>Am i doing something wrong (if yes, any idea what ?) in python, or is
>this a bug in the python binding ?
>
>_______________________________________________
>sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From amadio.pierre at gmail.com  Sat Apr 20 08:18:17 2019
From: amadio.pierre at gmail.com (pierre amadio)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 17:18:17 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Python and strong module
In-Reply-To: <0DC03C1B-90E1-4EEC-95D6-DE715F9E9BE2@crosswire.org>
References: <CAOTAUq+_HBCTg6XRYzud25wn0AZF-x=y0fjaN0sy4NPPSV36wA@mail.gmail.com>
	<0DC03C1B-90E1-4EEC-95D6-DE715F9E9BE2@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <CAOTAUqJakT-qcnNH1CaBadMKhkRA7Y03-9BEvL2NsxBh5T4dGA@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent, that did the trick.
Thanks !


On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 16:59, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Pierre,
>
> In Python, it looks like you are setting your strongs number into a VerseKey. This will give a out of bounds error and will likely return the last entry if you continue to do a look up with it. You probably just want an SWKey instead of VerseKey. This is the most base type of key in SWORD and simply takes a string and doesn't try to parse it or do anything special with it.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Troy
>
> On April 20, 2019 1:32:28 AM MST, pierre amadio <amadio.pierre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I fail to look for a Strong's dictionnary Hebrew entry with python
>> (Red Hat based, sword-python-1.8.1-3.el7.x86_64).
>>
>> Here is the shortest test case i have:
>> https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/python/strongtestcase.py
>>
>> Instead of giving me the entry for 5975 (amad) , it gives the entry
>> for 8674 (Tattnay)
>>
>> I have a similar testcase that works as expected in C++ :
>> https://github.com/pierre-amadio/SwordSandBox/blob/master/strongTest/testStrong/main.cpp
>>
>> I experience a similar outpout if i set a non existing key (say
>> "1111111111111111" instead of "05975" in c++ .
>>
>> Am i doing something wrong (if yes, any idea what ?) in python, or is
>> this a bug in the python binding ?
>> ________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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>
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Sun Apr 21 01:38:32 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter von Kaehne)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 09:38:32 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Happy Easter - Bible download statistics
Message-ID: <ea99836b6fd5b5adf07ac1fc9fe69a24cf7f3c3f.camel@gmx.net>

Happy Easter to all!

I attach some download statistics which I run yesterday on the old
server instance. We have shipped from that server alone 1.4 million
modules last year. These stats do not cover the new server, nor Xiphos
nor eBible, nor IBT. It would be great if we could do some collective
accounting at one point.

There are some interesting things hiding in there.

Some small Pacific islands must have the whole population downloading
the text. 2000+ for the Kapingamarangi language.

Inside Europe apart from English Czech is I think the most downloaded
language.

Afghans have downloaded 2.5k Bibles.

Peter

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The top 1000 downloads of the 365 days after Sat 21-Apr-2018

KJV:	32675
ESV2011:	19363
StrongsGreek:	18633
StrongsHebrew:	18469
ESV2001:	15324
KJVA:	13643
AKJV:	12934
ISV:	12067
HinERV:	10602
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Downloaded modules in the last 365 days: 1399450.

From manfred.bergmann at me.com  Mon Apr 22 09:34:17 2019
From: manfred.bergmann at me.com (Manfred Bergmann)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 18:34:17 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Happy Easter - Bible download statistics
In-Reply-To: <ea99836b6fd5b5adf07ac1fc9fe69a24cf7f3c3f.camel@gmx.net>
References: <ea99836b6fd5b5adf07ac1fc9fe69a24cf7f3c3f.camel@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <1F35FB12-195C-4EB0-BDBA-01AD36B59438@me.com>

Hi.

That?s great.
Can we do stats per front end? I?d be interested in that. I believe some front ends that use FTP do use a certain login name or so?


Manfred


> Am 21.04.2019 um 10:38 schrieb Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net>:
> 
> Happy Easter to all!
> 
> I attach some download statistics which I run yesterday on the old
> server instance. We have shipped from that server alone 1.4 million
> modules last year. These stats do not cover the new server, nor Xiphos
> nor eBible, nor IBT. It would be great if we could do some collective
> accounting at one point.
> 
> There are some interesting things hiding in there.
> 
> Some small Pacific islands must have the whole population downloading
> the text. 2000+ for the Kapingamarangi language.
> 
> Inside Europe apart from English Czech is I think the most downloaded
> language.
> 
> Afghans have downloaded 2.5k Bibles.
> 
> Peter
> 
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From schlemmerhorst1731 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 01:36:44 2019
From: schlemmerhorst1731 at gmail.com (Horst Sclemmer)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:36:44 +0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Updated CARS modules
Message-ID: <67bc5707-36e5-b370-c151-dd111473a007@gmail.com>

Hello and Happy belated Easter!,

there is a translation update for the three CARS (Central Asian Russian 
Scripture) projects.
Please upload it to the repository.
The Sword module (and the OSIS file) can be downloaded here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10oQfQa29kHuWKNRvg7uveq5UPfF-nxWk

The CARS modules are called:
RusCARS + RusCARSDICT
RusCARSA + RusCARSADICT
RusCARST + RusCARSTDICT

Thanks for your work on this!

Blessings

Horst on behalf of the CARS translation team


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From schlemmerhorst1731 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 24 01:39:14 2019
From: schlemmerhorst1731 at gmail.com (Horst Sclemmer)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:39:14 +0600
Subject: [sword-devel] updated Uighur Cyrillic module
Message-ID: <93eb056f-6447-b466-3e0f-47d1c9963b3d@gmail.com>

Hello and Happy belated Easter!,

we updated the Uighur Cyrillic module (added 3 new OT books).
Please upload it to the repository.

The Sword module (and the OSIS file) can be downloaded here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v32j_1ggKrc7xykofcL98QWKnMcK6qI2

Thank you!

Blessings

Horst on behalf of the Uighur translation team



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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Wed Apr 24 07:53:18 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:53:18 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Flash cards as a front-end?
Message-ID: <XG1tDLgSkGyUdKmTRfVa6YsP5EqP_WjYqYoivF5lbKDLE93BQ6lvUZIIzIoIT9VbCiIc8hMwKZEv_rFiKnMGpWjqtMFfzAC3jgs_zdaOtsg=@protonmail.com>

Is anyone still actively developing Flash Cards?

We rarely mention it. If it?s still useful, ought we not to promote it more?

Is there a mobile version?
If not, why not?

It?s something that could be used for Scripture Memorisation - a bit like the Navigators? TMS.

Best regards,

David

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From scribe at crosswire.org  Wed Apr 24 09:35:42 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:35:42 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Flash cards as a front-end?
In-Reply-To: <XG1tDLgSkGyUdKmTRfVa6YsP5EqP_WjYqYoivF5lbKDLE93BQ6lvUZIIzIoIT9VbCiIc8hMwKZEv_rFiKnMGpWjqtMFfzAC3jgs_zdaOtsg=@protonmail.com>
References: <XG1tDLgSkGyUdKmTRfVa6YsP5EqP_WjYqYoivF5lbKDLE93BQ6lvUZIIzIoIT9VbCiIc8hMwKZEv_rFiKnMGpWjqtMFfzAC3jgs_zdaOtsg=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <65c13f31-ee48-93d6-bf16-68aed3d9cccb@crosswire.org>

I still use it occasionally to study.? People have added flashcard
lessons over the years.? It was originally written as a J2ME app, then
DM (I believe) produced a desktop (SWING?) app.? I made it into a webapp
so I can use it from any mobile device without install.? It generally
works but is not perfect:

http://crosswire.org/fc/web


On 4/24/19 7:53 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> Is anyone still actively developing Flash Cards?
>
> We rarely mention it. If it?s still useful, ought we not to promote it
> more?
>
> Is there a mobile version?
> If not, why not?
>
> It?s something that could be used for Scripture Memorisation - a bit
> like the Navigators? TMS.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Wed Apr 24 11:01:21 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:01:21 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Flash cards as a front-end?
In-Reply-To: <65c13f31-ee48-93d6-bf16-68aed3d9cccb@crosswire.org>
References: <XG1tDLgSkGyUdKmTRfVa6YsP5EqP_WjYqYoivF5lbKDLE93BQ6lvUZIIzIoIT9VbCiIc8hMwKZEv_rFiKnMGpWjqtMFfzAC3jgs_zdaOtsg=@protonmail.com>
	<65c13f31-ee48-93d6-bf16-68aed3d9cccb@crosswire.org>
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What would it take to convert it to a mobile edition with access to the modules in the SWORD path of (e.g.) PocketSword or AndBible?

Are there any insurmountable obstacles to this concept?

It could then be used entirely offline once the chosen Bible modules were installed...

David

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 17:35, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:

> I still use it occasionally to study.  People have added flashcard lessons over the years.  It was originally written as a J2ME app, then DM (I believe) produced a desktop (SWING?) app.  I made it into a webapp so I can use it from any mobile device without install.  It generally works but is not perfect:
>
> http://crosswire.org/fc/web
>
> On 4/24/19 7:53 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>
>> Is anyone still actively developing Flash Cards?
>>
>> We rarely mention it. If it?s still useful, ought we not to promote it more?
>>
>> Is there a mobile version?
>> If not, why not?
>>
>> It?s something that could be used for Scripture Memorisation - a bit like the Navigators? TMS.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
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From refdoc at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 01:42:36 2019
From: refdoc at crosswire.org (refdoc at crosswire.org)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 09:42:36 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] [modules] updated Uighur Cyrillic module
References: <93eb056f-6447-b466-3e0f-47d1c9963b3d@gmail.com>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 09:31:38 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:31:38 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
Message-ID: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>

Hello,
I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
error (not all just the new I need):
Not Found
The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
not found on this server.
The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
not found on this server.

itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.

Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?

Thanks for help.



From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 09:48:13 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 16:48:13 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FNhTYNJu1bYgmf7RkxfmrCmYuwr-Eq32EU_C3rV4JV3Xczjg8Twb8F-7OQiuZahY9R7LMpAXBAkrJ44r9Pnj3riVq3QGdZ6dfa2LJ4wHc1g=@protonmail.com>

Although I was able to install Dictionary module FreBailly into PocketSword using the added FTP Source workaround,
repeated attempts to initialise the same dictionary module caused PS to crash after several seconds of activity.

Has anyone else succeeded ?

David

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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 17:31, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
> error (not all just the new I need):
> Not Found
> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
> not found on this server.
> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
> not found on this server.
>
> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>
> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>
> Thanks for help.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 09:52:41 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 16:52:41 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <FNhTYNJu1bYgmf7RkxfmrCmYuwr-Eq32EU_C3rV4JV3Xczjg8Twb8F-7OQiuZahY9R7LMpAXBAkrJ44r9Pnj3riVq3QGdZ6dfa2LJ4wHc1g=@protonmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
	<FNhTYNJu1bYgmf7RkxfmrCmYuwr-Eq32EU_C3rV4JV3Xczjg8Twb8F-7OQiuZahY9R7LMpAXBAkrJ44r9Pnj3riVq3QGdZ6dfa2LJ4wHc1g=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <UKqKEMUIUkhNopNbe2PhonYRcq7NP5qicxAQenjf93H5KyoGEickfq1rsHbysEt-wczojWLwkBfDqLLc5N8SEUi_43u5SnbK-ZVjXotsEaM=@protonmail.com>

There was no such PS crash for Dictionary initialisation with module ItDizGreco.

David

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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 17:48, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Although I was able to install Dictionary module FreBailly into PocketSword using the added FTP Source workaround,
> repeated attempts to initialise the same dictionary module caused PS to crash after several seconds of activity.
>
> Has anyone else succeeded ?
>
> David
>
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> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 17:31, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>> error (not all just the new I need):
>> Not Found
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>>
>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>
>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>
>> Thanks for help.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 10:24:30 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:24:30 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>

Dear Fr. Cyrille,

We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
have troubles.

Troy


On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
> Hello,
> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
> error (not all just the new I need):
> Not Found
> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
> not found on this server.
> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
> not found on this server.
>
> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>
> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page


From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 11:27:27 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:27:27 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
	<d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
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FreBailly freshly installed from CrossWire repo after source refresh.

NB. Not from FTP workaround.

Dictionary initialisation still causes PocketSword to crash out.

Suspect either a module build error or some obscure software bug.

No crash with ItDizGreco.

David

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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 18:24, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:

> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>
> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
> downloads happened over this past weekend.  It appears that automatic
> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
> working.  It should be working now.  Please let me know if you still
> have troubles.
>
> Troy
>
> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>> error (not all just the new I need):
>> Not Found
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>>
>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>
>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>
>> Thanks for help.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 11:54:28 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 20:54:28 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
	<d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <d6a734f6-ee95-f39a-6449-d9a039e7d84b@gmail.com>

Thanks? Troy,
FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
update proposition.
The manual download still not works.

Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>
> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
> have troubles.
>
> Troy
>
>
> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>> error (not all just the new I need):
>> Not Found
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>> not found on this server.
>>
>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>
>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>
>> Thanks for help.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 12:23:41 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:23:41 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <d6a734f6-ee95-f39a-6449-d9a039e7d84b@gmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
	<d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
	<d6a734f6-ee95-f39a-6449-d9a039e7d84b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c6c3bf5b-f06b-3dc5-b494-ff020761b0a1@crosswire.org>

Hi Fr. Cyrille,

I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
things you are saying are not updated or not showing?

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly

This is showing the latest version on the new server.

I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
something you need to talk with Peter about.

CPDV is here:

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV

and this is the latest version on the new server.

Troy


On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
> Thanks? Troy,
> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
> update proposition.
> The manual download still not works.
>
> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>
>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>> have troubles.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>> Not Found
>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>> not found on this server.
>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>> not found on this server.
>>>
>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>
>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>
>>> Thanks for help.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 12:42:27 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:42:27 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 20:40, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:

> The CPDV module found by PS in CrossWire is version 1.0.1
>
> See attached screenshot link.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/166HnOocY0DUmQ_n4-CkQWAglh0GrJPOq/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 20:23, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>
>> I need more information.  Can you send me  URLs you are using to see the
>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>
>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>
>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
>>
>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>
>> CPDV is here:
>>
>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
>>
>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Thanks  Troy,
>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>> update proposition.
>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>
>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.  It appears that automatic
>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>> working.  It should be working now.  Please let me know if you still
>>>> have troubles.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>> Not Found
>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>
>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 13:10:41 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 22:10:41 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <c6c3bf5b-f06b-3dc5-b494-ff020761b0a1@crosswire.org>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
	<d3d346ee-3297-232e-3d5d-4d7fc6a17e62@crosswire.org>
	<d6a734f6-ee95-f39a-6449-d9a039e7d84b@gmail.com>
	<c6c3bf5b-f06b-3dc5-b494-ff020761b0a1@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <2508b91e-9cff-8fe7-354e-dfe08315637c@gmail.com>



Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>
> I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>
> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp
>
> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.
> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>
> CPDV is here:
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.
>
> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>
> Troy
>
>
> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>> Thanks? Troy,
>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>> update proposition.
>> The manual download still not works.
>>
>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>
>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>>> have troubles.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>> Not Found
>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>> not found on this server.
>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>
>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>
>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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From christopher.w.adams at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 14:10:15 2019
From: christopher.w.adams at gmail.com (Christopher Adams)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 17:10:15 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Commentary module -- no text output
Message-ID: <CADLWcdZv9riMcU4rdcPJbL2cT1SQ1Z2+Mz6aOA5HW36AnG4PfA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to create a commentary module for Xiphos on Windows. I've
created a sample commentary for John chapter 1, with a sample .conf file,
and successfully used osis2xml on it. Xiphos recognizes the module as a
commentary, but when I turn to the verse, there is no output text. I've
gone back over the 'sworddevel' archives for the past 2 years but couldn't
find any related information. (I couldn't find any way to search the
archives, either; if there is relevant information further back, I would
appreciate it if someone could direct me to the right year & month.) Would
someone please look over the text (pasted below), and let me know if I'm
missing anything, or done anything wrong?

Thank-you,
Chris Adams

===========
XML File:
===========
<?xml version="1.0"?>
-<xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8">

<osis xmlns:xsischemaLocation="
http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace" xmlns:xsi="
http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:osis="
http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace" xmlns:ns="
http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"/>

<header>{HEADER}</header>

<div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
annotateRef="JHN.1.1">TESTING</div>
<div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
annotateRef="JHN.1.2">TESTING</div>
<div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
annotateRef="JHN.1.3">TESTING</div>
...
</xml>

===========
.conf file:
===========
[testingxml.xml]

DataPath=.\modules\comments\RawCom\test\nt.vss
ModDrv=RawCom
SourceType=OSIS
Lang=en
Description=Test Commentary
About=Test Commentary on John 1
Books with commentary:\par \
John\par
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
LCSH=Bible--Commentaries.
GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents
DistributionLicense=Public Domain
TextSource=Sample
Category=Commentaries
OSISVersion=2.1.1
MinimumVersion=1.5.9
SwordVersionDate=2008-01-01
InstallSize=5

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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 14:13:52 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 14:13:52 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <2508b91e-9cff-8fe7-354e-dfe08315637c@gmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <613a4b82-ebe0-d7de-92e0-104c4761c84b@crosswire.org>

Dear Fr. Cyrille, see comments below.

On 4/27/19 1:10 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>
> Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>
>> I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>
>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>
>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
> When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
> http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp

Yes, and if I click your link, then click "Lexicons / Dictionaries",
then click FreBailly "Info", I get the link I sent you above.? What do
you find wrong?


>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
> New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.

There is a .conf file for this module on the old server, but not the new
server.? I doubt it is any longer available in AndBible if you refresh.?
This is a question for Peter.


>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>
>> CPDV is here:
>>
>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
> CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.

Again, I am seeing a new version of this .conf file on the old server
but not the new server.? I believe Peter has some script which is still
writing to the old server.


-Troy


>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Thanks? Troy,
>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>> update proposition.
>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>
>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>>>> have troubles.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>> Not Found
>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>
>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 14:16:16 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 14:16:16 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Commentary module -- no text output
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You datapath needs to use forward slashes.

On 4/27/19 2:10 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
> I'm trying to create a commentary module for Xiphos on Windows. I've
> created a sample commentary for John chapter 1, with a sample .conf
> file, and successfully used osis2xml on it. Xiphos recognizes the
> module as a commentary, but when I turn to the verse, there is no
> output text. I've gone back over the 'sworddevel' archives for the
> past 2 years but couldn't find any related information. (I couldn't
> find any way to search the archives, either; if there is relevant
> information further back, I would appreciate it if someone could
> direct me to the right year & month.) Would someone please look over
> the text (pasted below), and let me know if I'm missing anything, or
> done anything wrong??
>
> Thank-you,
> Chris Adams
>
> ===========
> XML File:
> ===========
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> -<xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8">
>
> <osis
> xmlns:xsischemaLocation="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
> xmlns:osis="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
> xmlns:ns="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"/>
>
> <header>{HEADER}</header>
>
> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
> annotateRef="JHN.1.1">TESTING</div>
> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
> annotateRef="JHN.1.2">TESTING</div>
> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary"
> annotateRef="JHN.1.3">TESTING</div>
> ...
> </xml>
>
> ===========
> .conf file:
> ===========
> [testingxml.xml]
>
> DataPath=.\modules\comments\RawCom\test\nt.vss
> ModDrv=RawCom
> SourceType=OSIS
> Lang=en
> Description=Test Commentary
> About=Test Commentary on John 1
> Books with commentary:\par \
> John\par?
> Version=1.0
> Encoding=UTF-8
> LCSH=Bible--Commentaries.
> GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents?
> DistributionLicense=Public Domain
> TextSource=Sample
> Category=Commentaries
> OSISVersion=2.1.1
> MinimumVersion=1.5.9
> SwordVersionDate=2008-01-01
> InstallSize=5
>
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 14:21:03 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:21:03 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
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Il 27/04/2019 23:13, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
> Dear Fr. Cyrille, see comments below.
>
> On 4/27/19 1:10 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>> Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>>
>>> I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
>>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>>
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>>
>>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
>> When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
>> http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp
> Yes, and if I click your link, then click "Lexicons / Dictionaries",
> then click FreBailly "Info", I get the link I sent you above.? What do
> you find wrong?
>
No I click on Download, even if I click on info and Download it
downloads nothing.
>>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
>> New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.
> There is a .conf file for this module on the old server, but not the new
> server.? I doubt it is any longer available in AndBible if you refresh.?
> This is a question for Peter.
Ok if I understand you need to move it to the new server. I need just to
wait.
>
>>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>>
>>> CPDV is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
>> CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.
> Again, I am seeing a new version of this .conf file on the old server
> but not the new server.? I believe Peter has some script which is still
> writing to the old server.
>
>
> -Troy
>
>
>>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>> Thanks? Troy,
>>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>>> update proposition.
>>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>>
>>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>>>>> have troubles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>>> Not Found
>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 14:30:31 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 21:30:31 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Commentary module -- no text output
In-Reply-To: <9ad103c0-cf45-545c-5264-93bb35ce48a3@crosswire.org>
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And be all lowercase.

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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 22:16, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:

> You datapath needs to use forward slashes.
>
> On 4/27/19 2:10 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to create a commentary module for Xiphos on Windows. I've created a sample commentary for John chapter 1, with a sample .conf file, and successfully used osis2xml on it. Xiphos recognizes the module as a commentary, but when I turn to the verse, there is no output text. I've gone back over the 'sworddevel' archives for the past 2 years but couldn't find any related information. (I couldn't find any way to search the archives, either; if there is relevant information further back, I would appreciate it if someone could direct me to the right year & month.) Would someone please look over the text (pasted below), and let me know if I'm missing anything, or done anything wrong?
>>
>> Thank-you,
>> Chris Adams
>>
>> ===========
>> XML File:
>> ===========
>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>> -<xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8">
>>
>> <osis xmlns:xsischemaLocation="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:osis="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace" xmlns:ns="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"/>
>>
>> <header>{HEADER}</header>
>>
>> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary" annotateRef="JHN.1.1">TESTING</div>
>> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary" annotateRef="JHN.1.2">TESTING</div>
>> <div type="section" annotateType="commentary" annotateRef="JHN.1.3">TESTING</div>
>> ...
>> </xml>
>>
>> ===========
>> .conf file:
>> ===========
>> [testingxml.xml]
>>
>> DataPath=.modulescommentsRawCom est t.vss
>> ModDrv=RawCom
>> SourceType=OSIS
>> Lang=en
>> Description=Test Commentary
>> About=Test Commentary on John 1
>> Books with commentary:par
>> Johnpar
>> Version=1.0
>> Encoding=UTF-8
>> LCSH=Bible--Commentaries.
>> GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents
>> DistributionLicense=Public Domain
>> TextSource=Sample
>> Category=Commentaries
>> OSISVersion=2.1.1
>> MinimumVersion=1.5.9
>> SwordVersionDate=2008-01-01
>> InstallSize=5
>>
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From scribe at crosswire.org  Sat Apr 27 14:32:15 2019
From: scribe at crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 14:32:15 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
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Hi Fr. Cyrille,

You are correct about the download link.? I made a change on the new
server and these links should work now.? Let me know if you still have
issues.

Troy


On 4/27/19 2:21 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>
> Il 27/04/2019 23:13, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>> Dear Fr. Cyrille, see comments below.
>>
>> On 4/27/19 1:10 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
>>>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>>>
>>>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
>>> When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
>>> http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp
>> Yes, and if I click your link, then click "Lexicons / Dictionaries",
>> then click FreBailly "Info", I get the link I sent you above.? What do
>> you find wrong?
>>
> No I click on Download, even if I click on info and Download it
> downloads nothing.
>>>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
>>> New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.
>> There is a .conf file for this module on the old server, but not the new
>> server.? I doubt it is any longer available in AndBible if you refresh.?
>> This is a question for Peter.
> Ok if I understand you need to move it to the new server. I need just to
> wait.
>>>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>>>
>>>> CPDV is here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
>>> CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.
>> Again, I am seeing a new version of this .conf file on the old server
>> but not the new server.? I believe Peter has some script which is still
>> writing to the old server.
>>
>>
>> -Troy
>>
>>
>>>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>> Thanks? Troy,
>>>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>>>> update proposition.
>>>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>>>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>>>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>>>>>> have troubles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>>>> Not Found
>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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From lafricain79 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 23:46:09 2019
From: lafricain79 at gmail.com (Cyrille)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:46:09 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
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Il 27/04/2019 23:32, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>
> You are correct about the download link.? I made a change on the new
> server and these links should work now.? Let me know if you still have
> issues.

Yes it runs! Thank you Troy, now I'm waiting for the new modules.
> Troy
>
>
> On 4/27/19 2:21 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>> Il 27/04/2019 23:13, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille, see comments below.
>>>
>>> On 4/27/19 1:10 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>> Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>
>>>>> I need more information.? Can you send me? URLs you are using to see the
>>>>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>>>>
>>>>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
>>>> When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
>>>> http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp
>>> Yes, and if I click your link, then click "Lexicons / Dictionaries",
>>> then click FreBailly "Info", I get the link I sent you above.? What do
>>> you find wrong?
>>>
>> No I click on Download, even if I click on info and Download it
>> downloads nothing.
>>>>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
>>>> New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.
>>> There is a .conf file for this module on the old server, but not the new
>>> server.? I doubt it is any longer available in AndBible if you refresh.?
>>> This is a question for Peter.
>> Ok if I understand you need to move it to the new server. I need just to
>> wait.
>>>>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>>>>
>>>>> CPDV is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
>>>> CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.
>>> Again, I am seeing a new version of this .conf file on the old server
>>> but not the new server.? I believe Peter has some script which is still
>>> writing to the old server.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Troy
>>>
>>>
>>>>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks? Troy,
>>>>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>>>>> update proposition.
>>>>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.? It appears that automatic
>>>>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>>>>> working.? It should be working now.? Please let me know if you still
>>>>>>> have troubles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>>>>> Not Found
>>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Apr 27 23:59:17 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:59:17 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Download Modules issues and repository
In-Reply-To: <b7a2548f-9a86-05ad-2558-4eba7c85f198@gmail.com>
References: <2f96e02c-31e7-1119-6f27-16e81343093d@gmail.com>
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How long must we wait?

CPDV is still Version 1.0.1 after a further refresh.

Or is waiting simply insufficient for PocketSword users for other reasons?

And what about all the module releases that were announced earlier this year but never actually became visible?

It?s all still too ?hit and miss?.

David

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On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 07:46, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Il 27/04/2019 23:32, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>
>> You are correct about the download link.  I made a change on the new
>> server and these links should work now.  Let me know if you still have
>> issues.
>
> Yes it runs! Thank you Troy, now I'm waiting for the new modules.
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/19 2:21 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>> Il 27/04/2019 23:13, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille, see comments below.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/19 1:10 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>> Il 27/04/2019 21:23, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>>> Hi Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need more information.  Can you send me  URLs you are using to see the
>>>>>> things you are saying are not updated or not showing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=FreBailly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is showing the latest version on the new server.
>>>>> When I say manually I'm speaking about this page
>>>>> http://crosswire.org/sword/modules/index.jsp
>>>> Yes, and if I click your link, then click "Lexicons / Dictionaries",
>>>> then click FreBailly "Info", I get the link I sent you above.  What do
>>>> you find wrong?
>>>>
>>> No I click on Download, even if I click on info and Download it
>>> downloads nothing.
>>>>>> I don't see itnomibibbia.conf on the new server, so this is probably
>>>>> New module, visible in Andbible but not in xiphos.
>>>> There is a .conf file for this module on the old server, but not the new
>>>> server.  I doubt it is any longer available in AndBible if you refresh.
>>>> This is a question for Peter.
>>> Ok if I understand you need to move it to the new server. I need just to
>>> wait.
>>>>>> something you need to talk with Peter about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CPDV is here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=CPDV
>>>>> CPDV was uploaded but no uploaded version appears.
>>>> Again, I am seeing a new version of this .conf file on the old server
>>>> but not the new server.  I believe Peter has some script which is still
>>>> writing to the old server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> and this is the latest version on the new server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/19 11:54 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks  Troy,
>>>>>>> FreBailly propose an update, itNomiBibbia still invisible, CPDV no
>>>>>>> update proposition.
>>>>>>> The manual download still not works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Il 27/04/2019 19:24, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto:
>>>>>>>> Dear Fr. Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have been slowing migrating services to a new server and the web
>>>>>>>> downloads happened over this past weekend.  It appears that automatic
>>>>>>>> zip creation upon manual downloads if a new module exists, wasn't
>>>>>>>> working.  It should be working now.  Please let me know if you still
>>>>>>>> have troubles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/27/19 9:31 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> I really don't understand why some modules are not accessible on
>>>>>>>>> crosswire server. Then I tried to download it manually, and I have this
>>>>>>>>> error (not all just the new I need):
>>>>>>>>> Not Found
>>>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/ItDizGreco.zip was
>>>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>>>> The requested URL /ftpmirror/pub/sword/packages/raw/FreBailly.zip was
>>>>>>>>> not found on this server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> itNomiBibbia still not visible, and CPDV still old release.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second question, I asked already but I didn't found yet a solution, how
>>>>>>>>> to do a personal repository with a gitlab instance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 00:03:45 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:03:45 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: LvGluck8
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No search index for PS. See screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U5X8A-Bs8ndVQARyXx5h9BYPyChocCfF/view?usp=drivesdk

David

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 14:55, <refdoc at crosswire.org> wrote:

> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded LvGluck8.
> This is is an updated version of LvGluck8.
> Many thanks to J?nis for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 00:21:45 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:21:45 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
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What should be the module version for this announced update to CPDV ?

Is it conceivable that the .conf file has two entries for the Version key ?

Eg. Due to bugs in the confmaker script used by the modules team?

That might explain why we see something that looks as though it?s still the old version 1.0.1

Can the script be enhanced such that the announcement message always clearly states what version to expect to find in the repository?

This would short circuit a lot of the wasted effort looking for something that?s not findable.

David

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 07:52, <refdoc at crosswire.org> wrote:

> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 00:58:29 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:58:29 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] =?utf-8?q?Webster=E2=80=99s_Dictionary_1828?=
Message-ID: <EtEqJyT1i_3YdMrIZv9kl06jFbqpNcx70E5hxxCLi7HnQNm9fNorPrAux2XOunDyqmeRjAdUWz7S5sc6DA274sg1y2HMcazZ6KyStAYVWfE=@protonmail.com>

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/

Might it be feasible to create a dictionary module for this early edition?

cf. The one we distribute is for the 1913 edition.

David

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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 01:19:56 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:19:56 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
Message-ID: <rb_S1P82A6-obO743y1TrpJ0gmdAijn5q9m8I9sELhxPlt_YXP_VVx5AXBlVk0WeBbCMzliRufLEt-muXNPGQ-ngBiD0Cn6tKoeIX6NiTRE=@protonmail.com>

If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index.

Try installing the Chechen module CHE.

Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released.

After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire.

At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken.

Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either.

Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?

Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround.

Best regards,

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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:27:43 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] =?utf-8?q?Webster=E2=80=99s_Dictionary_1828?=
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From johan.marais at messianic.co.za  Sun Apr 28 05:12:48 2019
From: johan.marais at messianic.co.za (Johan)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:12:48 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
In-Reply-To: <rb_S1P82A6-obO743y1TrpJ0gmdAijn5q9m8I9sELhxPlt_YXP_VVx5AXBlVk0WeBbCMzliRufLEt-muXNPGQ-ngBiD0Cn6tKoeIX6NiTRE=@protonmail.com>
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David,

Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?

Best regards,

Johan Marais

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Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure

 

If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index. 

 

Try installing the Chechen module CHE. 

 

Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released. 

 

After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire. 

 

At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken. 

 

Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either. 

 

Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?

 

Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround. 

 

Best regards,

 

David

 

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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 06:00:17 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:00:17 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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It?s possible, but for unknown causes, the Xiphos produced search index only works in PS for a few modules.

David

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On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 13:12, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za> wrote:

> David,
>
> Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Johan Marais
>
> From: David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20
> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>
> If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index.
>
> Try installing the Chechen module CHE.
>
> Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released.
>
> After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire.
>
> At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken.
>
> Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either.
>
> Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?
>
> Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Apr 28 06:58:15 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:58:15 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] =?utf-8?q?Webster=E2=80=99s_Dictionary_1828?=
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	<fj1fou-99877b-34nmk3-k8dh55yak80b-ye2t30k3csxg9lytc0-tqnll84i02sl-al0vrs-reqdlmu5n8enmmit5bb7ziw-6yd7ty1667lr4avxqu-jcp316jd5g4t-xmgton62204t-pqji9v3l4zmh.1556447263790@email.android.com>
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1806 actually - but thanks for the heads up.

David

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On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 11:27, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> We distribute 1913 and 1808
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [sword-devel] Webster?s Dictionary 1828
> From: David Haslam
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> CC:
>
>> http://webstersdictionary1828.com/
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>> Might it be feasible to create a dictionary module for this early edition?
>>
>> cf. The one we distribute is for the 1913 edition.
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>> David
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 05:06:22 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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From: manfred.bergmann at me.com (Manfred Bergmann)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:48:09 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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FYI: I had added this feature, to create a default CLucene index, to Eloquent to make the index accessible to PocketSword via Module Maintainer mode.
But I do not know to which extend the index works or not works.



Manfred


> Am 28.04.2019 um 15:00 schrieb David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>:
> 
> It?s possible, but for unknown causes, the Xiphos produced search index only works in PS for a few modules. 
> 
> David
> 
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 13:12, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Johan Marais
>> 
>> From: David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> 
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20
>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>> 
>>  
>> If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index. 
>> 
>>  
>> Try installing the Chechen module CHE. 
>> 
>>  
>> Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released. 
>> 
>>  
>> After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire. 
>> 
>>  
>> At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken. 
>> 
>>  
>> Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either. 
>> 
>>  
>> Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?
>> 
>>  
>> Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround. 
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  
>> David
>> 
>>  
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>> 
> 
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From johan.marais at messianic.co.za  Mon Apr 29 00:32:41 2019
From: johan.marais at messianic.co.za (Johan)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:32:41 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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Thank you to all.
I created my own modules and want to add indexing for PocketSword, the index created in Xiphos does not work in PocketSword.
Johan

-----Original Message-----
From: Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergmann at me.com> 
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2019 07:48
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure

FYI: I had added this feature, to create a default CLucene index, to Eloquent to make the index accessible to PocketSword via Module Maintainer mode.
But I do not know to which extend the index works or not works.



Manfred


> Am 28.04.2019 um 15:00 schrieb David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>:
> 
> It?s possible, but for unknown causes, the Xiphos produced search index only works in PS for a few modules. 
> 
> David
> 
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 13:12, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Johan Marais
>> 
>> From: David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20
>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>> 
>>  
>> If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index. 
>> 
>>  
>> Try installing the Chechen module CHE. 
>> 
>>  
>> Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released. 
>> 
>>  
>> After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire. 
>> 
>>  
>> At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken. 
>> 
>>  
>> Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either. 
>> 
>>  
>> Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?
>> 
>>  
>> Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround. 
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  
>> David
>> 
>>  
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>> 
> 
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Mon Apr 29 02:09:55 2019
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:09:55 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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Johan,

And I guess the same would be true if one used the command line utility mkfastmod.

Unless perhaps that uses a different library than Xiphos.

It may still be worth trying.

David

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 08:32, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za> wrote:

> Thank you to all.
> I created my own modules and want to add indexing for PocketSword, the index created in Xiphos does not work in PocketSword.
> Johan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergmann at me.com>
> Sent: Monday, 29 April 2019 07:48
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>
> FYI: I had added this feature, to create a default CLucene index, to Eloquent to make the index accessible to PocketSword via Module Maintainer mode.
> But I do not know to which extend the index works or not works.
>
> Manfred
>
>> Am 28.04.2019 um 15:00 schrieb David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>:
>>
>> It?s possible, but for unknown causes, the Xiphos produced search index only works in PS for a few modules.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 13:12, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za> wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Johan Marais
>>>
>>> From: David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20
>>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>> Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>>>
>>>
>>> If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index.
>>>
>>>
>>> Try installing the Chechen module CHE.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released.
>>>
>>>
>>> After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire.
>>>
>>>
>>> At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either.
>>>
>>>
>>> Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?
>>>
>>>
>>> Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>
>>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Mon Apr 29 02:20:08 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:20:08 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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From johan.marais at messianic.co.za  Mon Apr 29 06:45:13 2019
From: johan.marais at messianic.co.za (Johan)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:45:13 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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Peter,

Just because you do not like the translation (and thus do not want to host it on CrossWire server(s)) does not mean that other people also do not like. There are people who want to use it with one of the CrossWire front ends. That is why I try to make a workable index for the bible and dictionary modules.

I do however, think this thread is worthwhile as others might benefit from the discussion.

Johan

PS - I do use PocketSword and Xiphos.

 

From: Peter Von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> 
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2019 11:20
To: dfhdfh at protonmail.com; sword-devel at crosswire.org
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure

 

Before you all waste too much effort to help Johan, it would make sense to note  that his module is not in CrossWire because it was removed. His problem has nothing to do with the general malaise we are fighting at the moment and his use of this thread is simply opportunistic.

 

As such it makes currently little or no sense to complain about absent modules, indeces or else until the server is again how it should be - working properly. 

 

Peter

  

Gesendet: Montag, 29. April 2019 um 10:09 Uhr
Von: "David Haslam" <dfhdfh at protonmail.com <mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com> >
An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org> >
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure

Johan, 

 

And I guess the same would be true if one used the command line utility mkfastmod.

 

Unless perhaps that uses a different library than Xiphos. 

 

It may still be worth trying. 

 

David

 

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On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 08:32, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za <mailto:johan.marais at messianic.co.za> > wrote: 

Thank you to all.
I created my own modules and want to add indexing for PocketSword, the index created in Xiphos does not work in PocketSword.
Johan

-----Original Message-----
From: Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergmann at me.com <mailto:manfred.bergmann at me.com> >
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2019 07:48
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org> >
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure

FYI: I had added this feature, to create a default CLucene index, to Eloquent to make the index accessible to PocketSword via Module Maintainer mode.
But I do not know to which extend the index works or not works.



Manfred


> Am 28.04.2019 um 15:00 schrieb David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com <mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com> >:
>
> It?s possible, but for unknown causes, the Xiphos produced search index only works in PS for a few modules.
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 13:12, Johan <johan.marais at messianic.co.za <mailto:johan.marais at messianic.co.za> > wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> Is it possible to create an index (e.g. in Xiphos) and transfer that (as part of the other bible and dictionary modules in zipped format) via Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Johan Marais
>>
>> From: David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com <mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com> >
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20
>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org> >
>> Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
>>
>>
>> If you install a Bible module from the IBT repository, the module is structured such that it also already contains the Lucene search index.
>>
>>
>> Try installing the Chechen module CHE.
>>
>>
>> Thus for PocketSword there is no further need to go to the CrossWire server to look for a separately maintained unofficially supported installable search index for each module released.
>>
>>
>> After CHE was installed, the search index existed, even though PS did not indicate that it had looked for and found a search index from CrossWire.
>>
>>
>> At least that?s what appears to be the case for some IBT modules. But I may be mistaken.
>>
>>
>> Some other IBT Bible modules are without a built-in search index and the index is not found at CrossWire either.
>>
>>
>> Might this approach be a useful method to imitate for CrossWire modules?
>>
>>
>> Either way, the possibility to harmonise the support for PocketSword search clearly has more than one potential interim workaround.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>
>
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From refdoc at gmx.net  Mon Apr 29 09:29:08 2019
From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:29:08 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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> Just because you do not like the translation [..]
?
No. Your "translation" does not qualify in our eyes as a credible attempt and is not acceptable for CrossWire. Not a matter of any personal preferences. Well discussed and not my decision alone. Well explained to you at the time. 

Basically you and your outfit are not the people we want to assist. And as these are CrossWire's mailing lists it would be appropriate if you showed the (fairly basic) respect to accept this and move on. 

Peter





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From: refdoc at gmx.net (Peter Von Kaehne)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:58:12 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] IBT repository - module contents structure
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For the avoidance of doubt - the criteria for publishing a Bible translation are simple and, emphatically, not personal preference

(1) a credible scholarly background
(2) a trinitarian translation organisation backing a text, unless the translation is purely an academic work - but then (1) becomes even more important.

Exceptions are sparse - we publish historical texts of significance, we publish the occasional crank and heretic if their heresies are significant enough to publish for apologetic purposes (but highlight the texts then accordingly as doubtful and we do publish Jewish texts.

If we have doubts re (1) or (2), or, worse re both, we ask the organisation for credentials.

Peter