[sword-devel] Mailing list archives are insecure!

[David Haslam]

DM must be a fan of Jeremy!

> Leo: Diddly Squat Farm: A popular British reality television series that premiered in 2021 on Amazon Prime Video. The show documents the life of Jeremy Clarkson, a well-known journalist and television presenter, as he attempts to run a farm in the Cotswolds region of England.
>
>> The show is known for its mix of farming, DIY projects, and Jeremy's witty commentary.
> Would you like to know more about the show or Jeremy Clarkson's farming adventures?

I hadn't really understood Troy's reply, as he didn't explain it quite so well as you just did.

- What's the official URL we should use to access the list archives?
- Is it documented somewhere in our developers' wiki?

Best regards,

David

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On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 4:09 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:

> David, Troy explained it. You can have any prefix you like and the CrossWire web server will try to serve it as if there were none if it doesn’t match a known list of services.
> diddly-squat.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel
>
> That Leo’s hallucination satisfied the implementation of the web server is just dumb luck.
>
> DM
>
>> On May 2, 2025, at 10:54 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That doesn’t explain why the URL worked perfectly well and gave access to this very list.
>>
>> Explain that if you can.
>>
>> No LSD is required.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 15:18, DM Smith <[dmsmith at crosswire.org](mailto:On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 15:18, DM Smith <<a href=)> wrote:
>>
>>> Leo is hallucinating. This is a well known problem of GPT agents.
>>>
>>>> On May 2, 2025, at 8:13 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Troy,
>>>>
>>>> That's a curious question!
>>>>
>>>> Me: What is pipermail?
>>>>
>>>> Leo: Based on the search results, **pipermail** appears to be a term related to electronic mailing lists, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.
>>>>
>>>> According to Wikipedia, GNU Mailman is a computer software application for managing electronic mailing lists, and pipermail is likely a part of this system. It seems that pipermail is used to access and browse the archives of mailing lists.
>>>> If you're looking for more information on pipermail, I can try to help you further.
>>>>
>>>> Me: What is the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel ? Leo: The URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is not explicitly mentioned in the search results you provided. However, based on the context, it appears to be related to email list archives or mailing list management systems.
>>>>
>>>> From the search results, it seems that the `pipermail` term is related to email list archives, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.
>>>> Given this information, it is possible that the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is in the format of `https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/` or something similar.
>>>>
>>>> Aside: Leo is the AI agent in the Brave browser.
>>>>
>>>> So, now you know how I found it, is there something amiss with the aforementioned hostname?
>>>> I don't recall seeing it before, but, hey!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 1:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't use 'lists' dot crosswire.org. Where did you find that hostname? We have a catchall, so you can say [https://bettyboop.crosswire.org](https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/) if you want, but the certificate won't be value for that domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/2/25 6:46 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you visit (eg) https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first thing you notice is a Browser Warning that the URL is insecure.
>>>>>> The https connection falls back to insecure http
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please would someone with access to our server make the necessary changes for our list archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email.
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